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re: Defensive Possessions per Game vs. Yards/Game

Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:08 pm to
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And why do the outliers only go in one direction?

This too. Why not take out Texas because they clearly had more than the average plays/game? It's an outlier to the other extreme just like GASO.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:08 pm to
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Link the post where I’ve said to remove the game. I’ll wait.

Here’s a hint: when you furiously search my posts to find it, you’ll see multiple posts of me saying it shouldn’t be removed.

Like I said, you seriously need to calm down and stop looking just to argue with people.



When you say it "skews the numbers" you imply that it somehow is not indicative of the performance for the year. Each game will not equal a season average. Every game "skews the numbers," That's how you come up with an average.

ETA: And you can also acknowledge that the Texas game equally "skews the numbers." Yet you don't seem to be doing that.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 3:11 pm
Posted by TannehillTigah
Tannehill, La
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:09 pm to
The very reason opposing offenses are getting the extra possessions is because of our offense scoring fast and often.....you do know that the other team gets the ball after we score right?
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:11 pm to
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When you say it "skews the numbers" you imply that it somehow is not indicative of the performance for the year.


50 plays run against will always skew the numbers, just like 85 plays will. You keep both in but use your common sense when doing so. I’m arguing to simply understand the numbers you’re using to try and make a point, which most people don’t.

I’m agreeing with you that all games should be counted, with context, and you’re still arguing with me. Let that sink in.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:12 pm to
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ETA: And you can also acknowledge that the Texas game equally "skews the numbers." Yet you don't seem to be doing that.


I’ve literally done it. Not implied, I’ve literally posted it.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:12 pm to
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his too. Why not take out Texas because they clearly had more than the average plays/game?

I believe that we will see opponents closer in talent to UT than Ga So.

They are not as good as UT (Outside of Bama - clarification just for my pal LNCHBOX), but they have similar athletes to UT and run a more similar scheme than Ga So triple option.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:15 pm to
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You keep both in but use your common sense when doing so


The common sense says they're both equal outliers. One is 18 below average, the other is 17 above.
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:18 pm to
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You excluded 25% of the games. You can't do that and expect anyone to take you seriously.


Doesn't the OP exclude 75% of the games since he's comparing a 4 game season to previous full seasons? Are you really okay with that or are you just jerking these other people around?
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:18 pm to
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I believe that we will see opponents closer in talent to UT than Ga So.

They are not as good as UT (Outside of Bama - clarification just for my pal LNCHBOX), but they have similar athletes to UT and run a more similar scheme than Ga So triple option.

now you're reaching.

You're making up stats to make LSU's defense look worse than previous years. Next year, when we compare 2020's defense to 2019's defense, are you going to say "wait, you have to throw out the GASO game"
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:19 pm to
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The common sense says they're both equal outliers. One is 18 below average, the other is 17 above.


Jesus Christ dude. I said the GSU game is skewing the numbers badly in regards to plays run against the defense, not the performance.

You came here looking for a fight and are slinging shite in every direction. Good for you.

ETA: what’s great is you’re trying to argue that the defense is fine while agree with the idiot above who created a thread to make the point that plays run against is lower in 2019 than it was in 2018.

***This is where the GSU outlier y’all from my came into play***

Welcome to the conversation actually being had.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 3:22 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:20 pm to
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Jesus Christ dude. I said the GSU game is skewing the numbers badly in regards to plays run against the defense, not the performance.

You came here looking for a fight and are slinging shite in every direction. Good for you.


And Texas is skewing it in the other direction. Just include all the information.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:20 pm to
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2020's defense to 2019's defense, are you going to say "wait, you have to throw out the GASO game"

Did I say we had to throw the BYU game out of the 2017 stats?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:21 pm to
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Doesn't the OP exclude 75% of the games since he's comparing a 4 game season to previous full seasons? Are you really okay with that or are you just jerking these other people around?


Would you like him to make numbers up or only talk about data we actually have?
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:21 pm to
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Doesn't the OP exclude 75% of the games since he's comparing a 4 game season to previous full seasons? Are you really okay with that or are you just jerking these other people around?


It's an average, dude. The more games we play this year, the more accurate the average will be. Showing an average through 4 games tells you roughly where you currently are compared to previous seasons. But throwing out games just muddies the conversation and it's what people who don't know math do.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:24 pm to
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Did I say we had to throw the BYU game out of the 2017 stats?


Congratulations, you proved my point.

So why throw out GASO?! Why compare this year's stats without GASO to 2017's stats with BYU?
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4810 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:25 pm to
My goodness dude. I've said this repeatedly but you're ignoring it.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13578 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:26 pm to
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We wont like that because of the shitty teams we have played and the numbers are marginally better, at best.



Except 80% if that number comes from ONE team and THAT team does actually have a good offense.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:27 pm to
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what’s great is you’re trying to argue that the defense is fine


I haven't said the defense is fine once.
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You came here looking for a fight and are slinging shite in every direction. Good for you.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29286 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:28 pm to
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Which we are to this point.


Yep. So far. But take away 2 TD drives when we get to SEC play, and giving the opponent 14 possesions could be a big problem.

Maybe that doesnt happen, but its obviously the risk of running at mach 1 on offense.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4810 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:30 pm to
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LNCHBOX

I had more fun arguing with you than TchPowDog. Come back
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