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Defensive Possessions per Game vs. Yards/Game
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:02 pm
2019 - 13.5 Defensive Possessions/Game - 320 YPG - 23.7 Yards/Possession
2018 - 12.0 - 338.7 - 28.2
2017 - 11.5 - 316.6 - 27.5
2016 - 11.3 - 314.4 - 27.8
2015 - 11.8 - 347.2 - 29.4
2014 - 11.7 - 316.8 - 27.1
2013 - 11.2 - 340.7 - 30.4
2012 - 12.5 - 307.6 - 24.6
2011 - 11.4 - 261.5 - 22.9
My point of this isn't to demonstrate that our defense is better than previous years, because I don't think that they've played better as of yet. I just figured I would point out that through 4 games, our defense is performing as well as it has in the past statistically. There's too much talent on this defense for me to think they won't step up their play once the starters return and real SEC play begins.
ETA: Just to clear this up: I do NOT think our defense has played as well as our past defenses have played. I know that stats don't tell the whole picture this early in the season. But, I think it's important to note how many more possessions per game the defense has played and how that can affect the rest of the statistics and can lead to us giving up 38 to Texas or 24 to Vandy.
2018 - 12.0 - 338.7 - 28.2
2017 - 11.5 - 316.6 - 27.5
2016 - 11.3 - 314.4 - 27.8
2015 - 11.8 - 347.2 - 29.4
2014 - 11.7 - 316.8 - 27.1
2013 - 11.2 - 340.7 - 30.4
2012 - 12.5 - 307.6 - 24.6
2011 - 11.4 - 261.5 - 22.9
My point of this isn't to demonstrate that our defense is better than previous years, because I don't think that they've played better as of yet. I just figured I would point out that through 4 games, our defense is performing as well as it has in the past statistically. There's too much talent on this defense for me to think they won't step up their play once the starters return and real SEC play begins.
ETA: Just to clear this up: I do NOT think our defense has played as well as our past defenses have played. I know that stats don't tell the whole picture this early in the season. But, I think it's important to note how many more possessions per game the defense has played and how that can affect the rest of the statistics and can lead to us giving up 38 to Texas or 24 to Vandy.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:03 pm to iamandykeim
Lot of people here won't like that stat.
ETA: The tackling needs to improve regardless, but many are showing their arse with the constant criticism of the D.
ETA: The tackling needs to improve regardless, but many are showing their arse with the constant criticism of the D.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:04 pm to iamandykeim
if you give the other team 13-14 possessions, you better score on offense VERY often
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:05 pm to LNCHBOX
We wont like that because of the shitty teams we have played and the numbers are marginally better, at best. There are problems with the defense, but you can bury your head in the sand if you want to.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:06 pm to SportTiger1
Which we are to this point.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:12 pm to iamandykeim
Better stat is, points per possession, points per play, offensive ranks of teams played.
The D is giving up chunk plays and most coming from jumping routes and piss poor tackling. Isn’t like we’ve played offensive juggernauts.
The D has issues...fixable issues, which is great. Perfect time for a bye week.
The D is giving up chunk plays and most coming from jumping routes and piss poor tackling. Isn’t like we’ve played offensive juggernauts.
The D has issues...fixable issues, which is great. Perfect time for a bye week.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:14 pm to iamandykeim
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2019 - 13.5 Defensive Possessions/Game - 320 YPG - 23.7 Yards/Possession
Remove the Ga So game and we are giving up 394 YPG on 5.33 yards per play. That includes NW St.
Texas got 48 yards/possession. We have two cupcakes skewing our stats and the numbers still don't look good.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:15 pm to SportTiger1
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if you give the other team 13-14 possessions, you better score on offense VERY often
yeah...they are GETTING those extra possessions because LSU is scoring in 1:45
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:23 pm to jb21lsu
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We wont like that because of the shitty teams we have played and the numbers are marginally better, at best. There are problems with the defense, but you can bury your head in the sand if you want to.
Props on reading all of my post.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:26 pm to Not Cooper
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Remove the Ga So game and we are giving up 394 YPG on 5.33 yards per play. That includes NW St.
Texas got 48 yards/possession. We have two cupcakes skewing our stats and the numbers still don't look good.
So remove games to make a point?
Can We remove the Vandy game since we beat the absolute frick out of them and the yards and points they got were all irrelevant?
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:26 pm to Not Cooper
quote:
Remove the Ga So game and we are giving up 394 YPG on 5.33 yards per play. That includes NW St.
Texas got 48 yards/possession. We have two cupcakes skewing our stats and the numbers still don't look good
Well doesn't every season have cupcakes that are skewing their stats? I 100% agree that our defense has not met the standard so far this season, but I think there are reasonable explanations as to why this stretch of poor defense is not the way the defense will play all year. Alabama gave up 31 last year to Arkansas - who is even worse than Vandy and probably is around as good as Ga Southern honestly. I seem to recall that Bama's D was pretty good when I watched them come play over here.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:30 pm to Not Cooper
Let us know when Cooper has something smart to say.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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Can We remove the Vandy game since we beat the absolute frick out of them and the yards and points they got were all irrelevant?
Please do. Removing Vandy we are giving up 404 YPG and 5.29 YPP.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:34 pm to iamandykeim
This year's defense has been really feast or famine...
Breakdown from the Texas, NW St and Vandy games (not including end-of-half possessions when team was not attempting to score).
Texas:
11 defensive possessions
2 3-outs (including 1 turnover on downs)
6 scoring drives
3 drives that picked up 1 first down but didn't result in score (includes 1 Turnover on Downs)
Northwestern State:
12 defensive possessions
7 3-outs (includes missed FG)
2 Scoring drives
3 drives that picked up 1 first down but didn't result in score (includes 2 Turnovers on Downs)
Vandy:
15 possessions
8 3-outs (technically 7 but I'm counting a 5 play drive that netted 9 yards as a 3 and out)
4 scoring drives
3 drives that picked up 1 first down but didn't result in score (includes 1 turnover on downs and 2 interceptions)
So, out of the 38 defensive possessions in the last 3 games, almost 45% of them have resulted in the opposing team gaining fewer than 10 yards.
Of the 21 drives where the opposing team gains at least 10 yards, however, they score almost half of the time. And most of the remainder of those drives have ended by turnover (on downs or otherwise).
Out of the last 21 drives by opponents that went for 10 yards or more, only 3 have resulted in a punt.
Basically, if you pick up a first down against LSU, you're probably going to score. It's a really weird stat.
Breakdown from the Texas, NW St and Vandy games (not including end-of-half possessions when team was not attempting to score).
Texas:
11 defensive possessions
2 3-outs (including 1 turnover on downs)
6 scoring drives
3 drives that picked up 1 first down but didn't result in score (includes 1 Turnover on Downs)
Northwestern State:
12 defensive possessions
7 3-outs (includes missed FG)
2 Scoring drives
3 drives that picked up 1 first down but didn't result in score (includes 2 Turnovers on Downs)
Vandy:
15 possessions
8 3-outs (technically 7 but I'm counting a 5 play drive that netted 9 yards as a 3 and out)
4 scoring drives
3 drives that picked up 1 first down but didn't result in score (includes 1 turnover on downs and 2 interceptions)
So, out of the 38 defensive possessions in the last 3 games, almost 45% of them have resulted in the opposing team gaining fewer than 10 yards.
Of the 21 drives where the opposing team gains at least 10 yards, however, they score almost half of the time. And most of the remainder of those drives have ended by turnover (on downs or otherwise).
Out of the last 21 drives by opponents that went for 10 yards or more, only 3 have resulted in a punt.
Basically, if you pick up a first down against LSU, you're probably going to score. It's a really weird stat.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:34 pm to Not Cooper
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Please do. Removing Vandy we are giving up 404 YPG and 5.29 YPP.
Good, it makes your case stronger. Let's take out NSU while we're at it.
ETA: Maybe keep the first half in, just to make it even better for you.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:36 pm to iamandykeim
The Defense is going to be incredibly well conditioned.
The baptism by fire conditioning that has taken place with the Defense is going to pay huge dividends this year and beyond.
In the future, new players will have to keep up with the well conditioned upper class players.
The baptism by fire conditioning that has taken place with the Defense is going to pay huge dividends this year and beyond.
In the future, new players will have to keep up with the well conditioned upper class players.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:38 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
Good, it makes your case stronger. Let's take out NSU while we're at it.
ETA: Maybe keep the first half in, just to make it even better for you.
You clearly cannot comprehend what I am saying. Our 1 really good game is statistically covering up our 3 not so good games. That's the point I was making.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:40 pm to Not Cooper
quote:
You clearly cannot comprehend what I am saying. Our 1 really good game is statistically covering up our 3 not so good games. That's the point I was making.
No I get it, take away the game that changes the numbers to make your position look better. Why not get rid of all the games except the Texas game? Then the defense would look really bad.
On a scale of 1-10, how mad are you that all games count?
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:42 pm to LNCHBOX
???? Not sure what you are talking about. We have issues that are beyond missed tackles.
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