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Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:46 pm
Posted by kale
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:46 pm
As in your favorite most influential actors I have to say the easy choice is
Cary grant
Bogart
DiCaprio
Cruise
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Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:08 pm to
Most influential?

"To the people of the world, John Wayne is not just an actor-and a very fine actor-John Wayne is the United States of America.”

- Maureen O'Hara
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 11:10 pm
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:12 pm to
I don't know about influential, but these are the 4 best actors you can come up with.

Robert De Niro
Al Pacino
Marlon Brando
Jack Nicholson

Huge fan of Paul Newman and I want to put him on this list, but I can't put him ahead of the other four I have listed.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:14 pm to
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I don't know about influential, but these are the 4 best actors you can come up with.

Robert De Niro
Al Pacino
Marlon Brando
Jack Nicholson

Huge fan of Paul Newman and I want to put him on this list, but I can't put him ahead of the other four I have listed.



Hard to disagree with that list.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:15 pm to
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best actors
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Robert De Niro
Al Pacino


Lol
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 11:16 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:15 pm to
Pacino bombed the 2nd half of his career.

Just a parody from Scent of a Woman on. His hurrah career paled in comparison to his early career.

While Nicholson was still great ala As Good As It Gets.
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Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:18 pm to
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Most influential?

Yeah those OP four weren’t very influential. Maybe Bogart.

Brando and Dean influenced a generation of actors.

Harry Ritz of the Ritz Brothers influenced Mel Brooks and his generation of comic actors.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:24 pm to
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Pacino bombed the 2nd half of his career.



He also had arguably the greatest run of any actor ever during the first half of his career. And why do actors like De Niro and Pacino constantly get criticized for being in decline/making bad movies while directors who haven’t made a great movie in ages such as Coppola, Tim Burton, Ridley Scott, Zemeckis, DePalma, etc.. always get a pass?
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:26 pm to
Hard disagree with you on that. Pacino stole movies for literally 25 years and had as good a run as you can imagine for a long time.
Posted by kale
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:34 pm to
Pacino has a case for the goat, Nicholson, deniro are a hard no off their talent
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:36 pm to
He was over the top and screaming in movies since 1993.

If that's stealing movies, then it's too easy to steal.

He was very subtle in Godfather (and lucky to have that role if you read the history on that) and had a nice 70's run and some 80's - and then...it wasn't that he was in bad movies, he was bad.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:40 pm to
I mean Pacino is ridiculous in Scarface, it's like a cartoon. Can't even do the accent.

He was good in Glengarry Glenn Ross, Carlito's Way, Donnie Brasco (great)...

Scent of a Woman, Devil's Advocate, Any Given Sunday...just screaming Pacino.

Hey look I can scream, I'm a great actor. It became his shtick.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 11:42 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:44 pm to
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Hey look I can scream, I'm a great actor. It became his shtick
are you talking about Robert Deniro?
Posted by sumbodyorsum1
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:46 pm to
No James Stewart?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:46 pm to
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He [Pacino] also had arguably the greatest run of any actor ever during the first half of his career
actually his career went to the dogs for most of the '80s
Posted by sumbodyorsum1
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:47 pm to
John Wayne is 100% going to be on this

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:49 pm to
You talking to me?

Or Bench?

You replied after me, so it seems like you're talking to me.

(If we want to get into 90's declines, I'd still say DeNiro outclassed Pacino in HEAT in their head-to-head where Pacino had already gone over the top and DeNiro still had restraint.

Not a big fan of Bill Simmons anymore but he's right when he says Pacino fricking ruins a potentially classic scene with him and DeNiro at the Diner.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 11:50 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:49 pm to
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John Wayne is 100% going to be on this

as Charlie Chaplin should be
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:01 am to
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No James Stewart


He was the second guy I thought of after John Wayne.

American iconic actors to the world.

Jimmy Stewart is in a movie often declared the best movie of all-time in Vertigo by AFL.

For years, The Searchers was declared the best movie of all-time by AFL...a film John Wayne happens to be in.

And both Jimmy and John are in The Shootist.

For their longevity of work and influence globablly, I don't know how you can't have John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart on Mt. Rushmore...

The rest can be argued over.
Posted by 7LSU7
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:49 am to
Tom Hanks should be #1 on this list.
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