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re: Ben Watson Agrees With Jemele Hill Regarding HBCU's

Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
39066 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:47 pm to
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The last two firsts from HBCUs were Dominique Rogers Cromartie our of Tennessee State and Joe Flacco our of Delaware State.


Delaware =/= Delaware State
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:53 pm to
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The last two firsts from HBCUs were Dominique Rogers Cromartie our of Tennessee State and Joe Flacco our of Delaware State.


As stated
1) Flacco went to Delaware
2) this is wrong

There was a player this year drafted in the first round
Tytus Howard-Alabama State
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:35 pm to
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Then why are they making less money?



For a variety of reasons.

Keep digging.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:37 pm to
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only bc the numbers are much greater and there are a few excellent schools such as Howard


I’m not sure what you are referring to here in regards to much greater.

9 percent of black students attends hbcu.

Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:37 pm to
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you really think either of these "studies" validate anything?


Yes
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:38 pm to
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What?!?! Are you drunk?


No. Facts show it. Sorry.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:39 pm to
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From your first link. Feelings? Oh because they went to a HBCU the graduates are more engaged at work?



Dumb.
quote:

And the headline of your other article. None of which state actually how successful they are or how good/valuable they are



The facts are out there. Read the thread. Or do some research.

80 percent of black doctors and lawyers were produced by 2 hbcu med schools.



“Although HBCUs only represent 3% of all degree granting institutions in the nation, they represented 17% of the colleges supplying the most African American applicants to medical school in 2013. Xavier University and Howard University are also the top two producers of African American graduates of medical schools; their students accounted for 92 of the nation's African American graduating medical students, more than the top four Predominantly White Institutions (PWIs) that produce large numbers of African American medical school graduates combined [10].”

LINK /

Or just continue to have a position w no basis other than “feelings.”

Facts are facts.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136937 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:52 pm to
Segregation is fine by me

Problem is that everyone is fine with blacks or Latinos or Asians segregating into their own communities. When euro-Americans consider a similar action, it is suddenly exclusionary and not ok.
Posted by sumbodyorsum1
Member since May 2019
1606 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 5:07 pm to
Preach!
Posted by cade73
Member since Sep 2015
1060 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 5:17 pm to
Well at least you're aware. Now go brush that tooth and frick your sister-wife.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 7:37 pm to
So would they not be "slaves" at HBCUs?
Or do they just feel better about having a black slave master?

I guess I just don't see what this would accomplish
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 7:38 pm
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:13 pm to
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Ben Watson isn't wrong; there isn't much in Hill's article that can be seen as promoting segregation. It's more a speculative article as to how HBCUs could be invigorated if black athletes chose to attend them instead of P5 schools. It's a pipe dream, of course, HBCUs do not have the infrastructure
Correct. If anyone claims to konw Watson they would be aware that he isnt suggesting or supporting segregation.

Most NFl teams don't spend the money on lockerrooms / facilities that some P5 colleges like Oregon,Alabama , LSU,etc... Let alone HCBUS. 17/18 year old kids , especially, are impressionable.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:32 pm to
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There was a player this year drafted in the first round
Tytus Howard-Alabama State


And he didn't need a $40-$70$ million dollar locckerooms & over the top facilities like P5's , weekly televised games or Nick Saban. It's always been a pet peeve of mine that some people truly believe these kids need P5 schools to best achieve their NFL goals.


If 4/5 athletes chose Alabama State( nice facilities) & Alabama A&M over the Crimson Tide then NFL scouts would descend upon those schools.
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