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Addison Plane Crash Video - Can any OT aviation experts explain it

Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:16 am
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:16 am
Now that we have video of the crash what do you guys who know about airplanes think happened

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Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
12150 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:20 am to
Some problem with the left engine
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40603 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:20 am to
Got o' mighty.

Had to be some kind of mechanical failure with the steering.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7858 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:21 am to
ok I am a total amateur, but I see either:

1) massive load shift
2) engine seizes and hard roll towards that engine

But I am leaning to a load shift, and probably near overweight aircraft.


ETA: I looked again, and I am going with left engine seizing at a terrible moment, right at takeoff.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 11:24 am
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:21 am to
Too much roll, not enough pitch.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:21 am to
Man that scares the shite out of me more than it should.
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:24 am to
Left engine blowout causing it to spin out of control maybe
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:24 am to
Engine failure,pilot tried to go around and had the nose too high causing the stall. You can see the stall/skid on the dashcam footage. He should have been able to recover from that but he didn't calmly try to gain altitude before attempting to come around for the landing.
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:24 am to
bird strike into the left engine
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:25 am to
quote:

1) massive load shift
you're not going to have any significant load shift in a King Air. Not like it's a cargo plane.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:26 am to
I'll wait to hear Geauxxx's comments. He's got more seat time in King Airs than some of you have in a car.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68694 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:27 am to
Man, frick that.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:28 am to
That looks like something straight out of GTA V sadly.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Can any OT aviation experts explain it



I’m not an expert, but I don’t think it was supposed to slam into the ground like that
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 11:30 am
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7858 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:29 am to
quote:

you're not going to have any significant load shift in a King Air. Not like it's a cargo plane.

you're right. My first look, I saw something that wasn't there, it was the way my brain interpreted the video, incorrectly the first time.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5489 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:30 am to
engine failure during takeoff

ETA: left engine. after a certain speed you're required to take off. They were probably in the V1-V2 (have to take off) speed range when they realized something was wrong
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 11:33 am
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:30 am to
One of the engines was apparently not making required power, Dont know that much about that particular plane , but 10 people on board, some luggage and fuel would probably be close to maximum takeoff load. Without full power from both engines it could not climb, the pilot realizing he is running out of runway and not gaining altitude starts pulling back on the yoke in a attempt to get some altitude, but that slows the plane to a stall, then into a spin which is where it sort of flipped over. Contrary to popular belief the two engines are not for redundancy, they are both required to get the plane in the air when it is loaded beyond a certain limit. The saying goes" Lose a engine on a light twin engine plane and the remaining engine will fly you to the scene of the crash."
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 11:33 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29342 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:30 am to
At least it looked relatively quick for the passengers. They might have had some hope until it stalled and flipped, which happened quickly.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22082 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:32 am to
I don't have any expertise in this field, but all I can say is those videos are hard to watch.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7858 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:32 am to
quote:

I’m not an expert, but I don’t think it was supposed to slam into the ground like that

When you are about to click 'Submit' and you've typed up a zinger involving the fiery deaths of those folks, do you pause a little bit? Just asking.
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