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re: The real problem with the USMNT

Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:43 pm to
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If Rob Gronkowski played soccer instead of football he wouldn’t be 270 lbs of muscle

He’d be built like this



Gronk actually looks very Crouch-ian now. Maybe we call him up for the next January Camp.

This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:47 pm to
Overall, good post, but this part is painfully wrong:

quote:

Lebron is an incredible overall athletic specimen who would destroy anyone in a decathlon
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:41 pm to
Lets do it
Posted by 4th and 1
Member since Sep 2013
282 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:41 pm to
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Until the best male athletes in the US start to choose soccer over the big three (especially football) you will never see a USMNT move bound the quarterfinals.

But you don't need the best athletes (Diego Maradona isn't exactly a physical specimen) or a huge talent pool (Look at what small countries like Uruguay, Croatia, and Iceland have done) to produce good soccer players. There are enough kids who play soccer in this country. We just don't know how to develop them like the rest of the world.

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There is a reason why the women dominate

That's because the US is the only country that even remotely cares about women's soccer.
Posted by East Nasty Swaaaaag
Member since May 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:47 pm to
Our development methods still focus waaaay too much on physical attributes. Our youth players are so far behind in the real skill of soccer, technical abilities. Pay to play and win at all cost at the youth levels both need to go die in a fire.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7803 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:03 pm to
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That's because the US is the only country that even remotely cares about women's soccer.



In this Women's World Cup, it was interesting to see how quickly some European countries which just started caring at all in the past decade are already producing players with some tidy technical skills and good tactical awareness.

Posted by East Nasty Swaaaaag
Member since May 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:07 pm to
Spain WNT will become a serious superpower. They are going to win in 2027. Their youth NT squads should bear serious fruit.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7803 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:14 pm to
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Spain WNT will become a serious superpower. They are going to win in 2027. Their youth NT squads should bear serious fruit.


I wouldn't be surprised.

It was funny to see the Italian women's team. . . very tactically astute, entirely frustrating and striking on a few well-designed counters.

They seemed to miss quality finishers but amusing how much they mirrored the bottom of the table Italian Serie A sides.

Posted by East Nasty Swaaaaag
Member since May 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:20 pm to
But I would be remiss to credit that an attacking presence is way more prominent in the women’s game than the men’s. Netherlands and France didn’t even really have much of a threat, but England and Spain seemed to be way more formidable in the attack.
Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
1511 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:59 pm to
We need a soccer board former players vs never played but great athletes match.

You guys (the never played) can have LeBron.
Posted by eric4UA08
Member since Nov 2008
2017 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:03 am to
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We need a soccer board former players vs never played but great athletes match.


My wife played all through college. I’ve never played a competitive match. Not even when I was 5. But I’m a really athletic guy. In college, we’d go out to the rec fields and kick around. I developed a good shot and some other aspects of the game came naturally (without pressure applied). But my gosh, any time she defended me, I couldn’t get by. Athleticism does nothing for your ball control. And I was terrible in any kind of pickup game.
Posted by East Nasty Swaaaaag
Member since May 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:04 am to
You sound like a cuck. GTFOH.
Posted by The411
Member since Dec 2010
86 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:16 pm to
Athleticism matters but it’s secondary. The closest analogy is a baseball player. Michael Jordan amazing athlete shite baseball player.

Same thing happens in soccer.

It would be nice for US soccer to have first crack to develop athletes to filter out who can play and who can’t, but the technical aspect is far behind the top soccer countries in the world.



Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
1511 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:29 pm to
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I would love to hear some of your stories from coaching that national team


We actually had some quality players with collegiate experience. We were nowhere near fit for any major qualifying but beat up on the smaller, unorganized CONCACAF teams because our girls had a decent understanding of the game and technical ability.

We would have very little time to train before the early stages of qualifying so as time went on and we grew with stronger players we identified we actually played quite a bit of small sided to develop a rhythm with each other.

Highlight is playing Mexico in Cancun at Estadio Beto Avila. Their crowd gave me chills singing the national anthem.

We went into halftime down 3-2. Lost 7-2. Crowd loved us because we tried to play properly. Amazing.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50261 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 11:11 pm to
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michael corleone

frick you, Fredo.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28604 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:07 am to
Dude that’s awesome. I’m doing sports medicine fellowship now and one of my patients is a collegiate player who plays for the Virgin Islands. Most of their players are college or high school/amateur level players. This girl told me they would get their butts kicked by any decent DII OR DIII team. I can’t imagine trying to organize that.
Posted by keeper007
Austin
Member since Feb 2008
1511 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 9:56 pm to
The technical director, head coach and I were coaching club at the same time in Florida so every tournament we went to we would collect the rosters they hand out to college coaches to check for last names that could be Guyanese. Found some solid players.

A mom calls the TD and says her daughter played college soccer and was a GK. As a GK coach i'm quite excited to find a player with college experience. Give her some to-dos over the phone.

She shows up at our first friendly tournament in Turks and next thing you know we find out she played intramurals in college. Safe to say she wasn't the player we thought she was.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28604 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 1:49 am to
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She shows up at our first friendly tournament in Turks and next thing you know we find out she played intramurals in college. Safe to say she wasn't the player we thought she was.

Haha this is hilarious, but I feel like someone should have stalked that college’s soccer rosters some more
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