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re: Iran has officially breached the nuke deal

Posted on 7/8/19 at 8:59 am to
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 8:59 am to
You are seriously underestimating the Israelis. Go back and read about the 7 day war.
You are foolish if you don't think Israel doesn't already have a detailed plan for taking out Iran. It has been in place for some time.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 9:04 am
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 8:59 am to
We get to see how the EU reacts now. Do they side with the US and add additional sanctions or do they side with Iran and appease them with more economic loopholes

I would love to totally Westernize Iran then offer some CIA payback to the KSA thugs and their American stooges.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 8:59 am
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16777 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 8:59 am to
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Iran has officially breached the nuke deal


Why do we give a shite if we pulled out of the deal?
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:03 am to
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You are seriously underestimating the Israelis. Go back and read about the 7 day war.


Am I?

They will just have to live with a nuclear Iran and Saudi Arabia. It’s going to happen.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23834 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:06 am to
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They will just have to live with a nuclear Iran and Saudi Arabia. It’s going to happen.


That does, unfortunately, seem inevitable. So the question is really whether we should engage them in agreements and bring them into the modern world, or whether we should have a war and hope that the bombs aren’t ready yet.

And a pressing question is do you trust Bolton to make this decision?
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
24280 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:06 am to
That won't happen if Iran continues to call for the destruction of Israel.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57348 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:08 am to
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Did anyone expect them to comply with a treaty that Trump already breached?


Was this "treaty" ratified in the Senate, or was it an Obama "pen-and-phone" treaty?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64486 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:09 am to
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comply with a treaty that Trump already breached?


What?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:10 am to
Iran has to do this in order to obtain any leverage for possible negotiations. In order to lift sanctions, the US will ask for a lot. Iran, from that point of view, will have to gain as much leverage as possible. There is some willingness to talk on both sides, but both sides have a maximalist approach, which assumes, in some ways, that the other actor is not rational. It would be a mistake for both parties to assume that neither is rational.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:11 am to
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Wonder if 74 still thinks the deal is "nuanced."


1) they were in compliance with terms of deal
2) trump backed the US out of the deal
3) iran no longer in compliance with deal

Not exactly shocking
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:12 am to
quote:

1) they were in compliance with terms of deal
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33164 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:12 am to
This is saying Iran breached the deal way before President Trump ...
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:12 am to
What nuke deal?
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5629 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:14 am to
It was not a treaty. Never submitted as such to the Senate for ratification because Barack knew it would never pass muster knowing all the details.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:14 am to
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What nuke deal?

It was called a pallet and a promise.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20362 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:14 am to
Wait did you really believe that Iran was going to imply regardless?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:16 am to
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What nuke deal?
It was called a pallet and a promise.


Then trump withdrew, and here we are

Time for another edition of "Bibi's Power Point Propaganda!"
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36239 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:17 am to
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You are foolish if you don't think Israel doesn't already have a detailed plan for taking out Iran. It has been in place for some time.

Then why is this any of our concern if the Israeli's have it all under control?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:17 am to
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Then trump withdrew, and here we are

They weren't in compliance, never were.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25248 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:20 am to
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I thought Trump tore it up. This is the logical result of Trump’s action. Did anyone expect them to comply with a treaty that Trump already breached?


Taqiyya. Once you understand it, you will understand why you can't rely on an agreement with Shia's engaged in a holy struggle with you.
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