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re: Is it time to start talking more openly again about Communism?

Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:33 am to
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:33 am to
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Did you watch the video, or are you familiar with the term “neo-marxists”?

I didn’t watch this particular video yet, but I’ve watched a zillion Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, Eric and Bret Weinstein, Shapiro, Harris, Pragur, etc etc vids, and I understand this topic quite well.

Much worse will happen here before the full concept of communism happens. And, I don’t think whatever does ultimately happen here will ever be labeled as communism even if it were close. It’ll be something new that doesn’t correlate enough with Marxist vision to be communism.
This post was edited on 7/6/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:35 am to
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What's amusing is that CPUSA hasn't been even remotely relevant for decades and now you Republicans are afraid of it?


What are you basing that claim on? They may have developed different names but it's the actions and ideology that has consistently grown in influence.

Do you think ANTIFA are communist based? BAMN?..Revolution Now, etc?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:36 am to
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Environmentalism might become another.


Might become? They're just the other glove in a pair imo.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:38 am to
It's summer time. I just saw a clip from the Dept of Energy. They recommend that you set your thermostat no lower than 78 degrees. When we have communism these won't be recommendations. Your thermostat will be controlled by the state.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:41 am to
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Sure and while we're at let's resurrect Joesph McCarthy


That would be great!!

You do know that McCarthy was proven right via the declassification of the Venona Transcripts....right??
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:41 am to
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McCarthy was right about a lot of it. Soviet cables after the collapse confirmed we had powerful communists in the state department.


Beat me to it.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:44 am to
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yeah so powerful we ended up with Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump and Republican Majories in Congress and and a Republican Supreme Court.


??Connect the dots that have that be relevant?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20189 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:48 am to
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Much worse will happen here before the full concept of communism happens. And, I don’t think whatever does ultimately happen here will ever be labeled as communism even if it were close. It’ll be something new that doesn’t correlate enough with Marxist vision to be communism.


Alright, fair enough. You seem to be saying that there is a commonality among the forces that are driving us to something “much worse” than communism.

How do you describe that common force? What is the motivation? What do you think it should be called?
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:50 am to
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yeah so powerful we ended up with Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump and Republican Majories in Congress and and a Republican Supreme Court. Talk about power.


We just had 20 Dem candidates raise their hand for open borders and free benefits for all illegals.

Hillary got 65 million votes.

Activist judges have enacted over 160 national cease and desist/stop injunction orders on Republican attempted policy.

5 organizations own all big news media and they are all Collectivist Leftists.

The 5 biggest tech companies control 99% of the social media and information flow, and they are all hardcore Collectivist Leftists.

Easily 80%+ of Academia in the country are run by Progressives.

5 book publishing companies run a round-robin revision of every scholastic book used by those Academia, and they are all hardcore progressives helping rewrite history.


Seriously, who the frick are you trying to sell your bullshite to?

A little gerrymandering and the Left has control of everything. Goodbye electoral college and 5-6 blue states are running the country.

So GTFO with that shite. You know you’re being dishonest.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:52 am to
Great response! Spot on.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112714 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:53 am to
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A little gerrymandering and the Left has control of everything.


My last 4 fund raising emails from OFA have stressed gerrymandering as a big political issue to elect a Dem.
If elected Biden promises to make it illegal.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 10:00 am to
The colonial American flag sewn by Betsy Ross, the US flag of the American Revolution, has been labeled racist. The communists burn the flag.

The Founding Fathers have been labeled racist. The communists destroy their statues.

The discovery of the new World World is labeled a genocidal hate crime. The communists re-write history and eliminate celebratory holidays.

The National Anthem has been assaulted as a hateful creed. The communists disrespect it at every turn.

July 4th, our Independence Day, is being labeled "a celebration of militarism and an overly political holiday". The communists demand it not be celebrated.

The US Constitution and Declaration of Independence were written by the aforementioned Founding Fathers. Communists call for their destruction and alteration beyond recognition.

Patriots cherish the Republic. We elect officials who share our values. Communists attempt to remove them via far reaching coup attempt.

Communists assault and attempt to murder Patriots in the streets (Ngo) and in our homes (Carlson). At work (Dallas police murders) and at play (Scalise and republican caucus baseball team).

Yes.

It is past time to start talking about communism.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 10:06 am to
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Communism as a talking point is part of a stupid paradigm



Until it isn’t
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 10:07 am to
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Alright, fair enough. You seem to be saying that there is a commonality among the forces that are driving us to something “much worse” than communism.

How do you describe that common force? What is the motivation? What do you think it should be called?
No clue what they’ll call it. But it’ll sound good and catchy to the Leftist sheeple.

It’ll be a totalitarian oligarchy with Progressive Collectivists in control.

The donor class isn’t handing shite over to the government to own and run. So the donors and politicians will continue their symbiotic relationship and simply try to devise better ways to pool wealth to them.

The idiot sheeple on the Left just don’t realize this is more easily done through “equality of outcome”, which destroys competition, and ensures those at the top don’t have to compete anymore and they can just reap the benefits of monopolies.

I don’t know. Maybe they’ll go with “Democratic Socialism”.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79262 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 10:07 am to
See if you can find the problem with what you wrote;

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Created wealth SHOULD go

quote:

What it’s DUE


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Wealth SHOULD go to the labor


It’s the COERCION. That’s where you lost your way. The idealistic assumptions and declarations are fine .
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 10:09 am to
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What do you think it should be called?


Confederation of Useful Idiots...The Spaced Force..Commies-R-us?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 10:10 am to
That^
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79262 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 10:11 am to
I’m setting up an alter to upvote this twice.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 10:12 am to
I heard an interview about wealth yesterday and the dudes main point was that wealth, for the most part, is created when we are trying to help others, as in services, products, and general motivations. Such a great contrast to the envy-laden wealth destroying prog filth.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79262 posts
Posted on 7/6/19 at 10:21 am to
Well that’s the beauty of it. The flow of goods and services at market prices, constantly exercising our freedom and improving our lives through voluntary transactions that benefit both parties.

A guy like Ralph Wiggum is personally offended by greed. I get that and to an extent I am too . I’d PREFER to see people curb their materialist appetites and share the wealth to the improvement of their communities . But I understand that has to be VOLUNTARY. As soon as that is COMPELLED, mankind descends into madness, violence etc.
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