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SCOTUS vacates $135K judgement against Oregon bakers
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:42 pm
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The Supreme Court on Monday vacated rulings that resulted in $135,000 in state fines against Oregon bakers Aaron and Melissa Klein, who refused in 2013 to create a cake for a lesbian wedding on religious grounds.
Rather than taking up the Klein’s case, the high court sent it back to Oregon officials to revisit in light of its ruling last year for Colorado baker Jack Phillips in a similar case.
In Phillips’ case, Masterpiece Cakeshop, Ltd. v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, the Supreme Court ruled that the state of Colorado erred by showing hostility toward Phillips’ Christian beliefs.
The Kleins owned Sweet Cakes by Melissa, a business that specialized in custom cake creations. When a lesbian inquired about a cake for her same-sex wedding in 2013, the Kleins explained they couldn’t create it due to their conviction that marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman.
In response, the state of Oregon’s Bureau of Labor and Industries went after the Kleins, levying fines of $135,000 and driving them out of business. In 2016, a state appeals court upheld the punitive measures against the Kleins.
Franklin Graham, who has voiced support for the Kleins through their ordeal, said on Facebook: “Religious freedom should be cherished by all of us. But the progressive socialists in our country want to strip us of those freedoms and regulate those freedoms. That’s the same thing Communism did in Russia and Eastern Europe, and is still doing today in places like Cuba and China. These people hate God and despise those who worship Him. This should be deeply concerning to all people of faith, whether you’re a Jew, a Muslim or a Christian.
“Aaron and Melissa Klein … have been harassed, had to close their business, been fined $135,000, and more. Their lives have been turned upside down—but they didn’t back down about their beliefs. … Be in prayer for Aaron, Melissa and their entire family. Pray that the courts give them justice and protect their religious freedom. The Kleins represent all of us. If they lose, we all lose.”
First Liberty Institute, which represents the Kleins along with Boyden Gray & Associates, said in a statement that Monday’s decision “reaffirmed an essential principle of fairness. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial before an unbiased judge. Our clients, the Kleins, didn’t have that opportunity in Oregon. They are thankful to the Court for recognizing their right to a fair trial and an unbiased adjudicator.”
The Supreme Court on Monday vacated rulings that resulted in $135,000 in state fines against Oregon bakers Aaron and Melissa Klein, who refused in 2013 to create a cake for a lesbian wedding on religious grounds.
Rather than taking up the Klein’s case, the high court sent it back to Oregon officials to revisit in light of its ruling last year for Colorado baker Jack Phillips in a similar case.
In Phillips’ case, Masterpiece Cakeshop, Ltd. v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, the Supreme Court ruled that the state of Colorado erred by showing hostility toward Phillips’ Christian beliefs.
The Kleins owned Sweet Cakes by Melissa, a business that specialized in custom cake creations. When a lesbian inquired about a cake for her same-sex wedding in 2013, the Kleins explained they couldn’t create it due to their conviction that marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman.
In response, the state of Oregon’s Bureau of Labor and Industries went after the Kleins, levying fines of $135,000 and driving them out of business. In 2016, a state appeals court upheld the punitive measures against the Kleins.
Franklin Graham, who has voiced support for the Kleins through their ordeal, said on Facebook: “Religious freedom should be cherished by all of us. But the progressive socialists in our country want to strip us of those freedoms and regulate those freedoms. That’s the same thing Communism did in Russia and Eastern Europe, and is still doing today in places like Cuba and China. These people hate God and despise those who worship Him. This should be deeply concerning to all people of faith, whether you’re a Jew, a Muslim or a Christian.
“Aaron and Melissa Klein … have been harassed, had to close their business, been fined $135,000, and more. Their lives have been turned upside down—but they didn’t back down about their beliefs. … Be in prayer for Aaron, Melissa and their entire family. Pray that the courts give them justice and protect their religious freedom. The Kleins represent all of us. If they lose, we all lose.”
First Liberty Institute, which represents the Kleins along with Boyden Gray & Associates, said in a statement that Monday’s decision “reaffirmed an essential principle of fairness. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial before an unbiased judge. Our clients, the Kleins, didn’t have that opportunity in Oregon. They are thankful to the Court for recognizing their right to a fair trial and an unbiased adjudicator.”
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:52 pm to Crimson Wraith
It’s more important to uphold made up protections for where you put your sex organs than to uphold religious liberty that is specifically enumerated in the Constitution’s Bill of Rights. This is the “progressive” mindset.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:53 pm to Crimson Wraith
The baker shoulda just made one of these:
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:54 pm to Crimson Wraith
The SCOTUS, in a very loud and clear voice, is saying "read the fricking Colorado decision you dumbfricks or we'll do a worse dance on you."
Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:36 pm to Crimson Wraith
I sincerely hope this couple can go back and sue the State of Oregon for MILLIONS of dollars in punitive and compensatory damages over the persecution and vindictive misuse of the courts and Civil Rights Violations.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:44 pm to Sidicous
I hope. That couple was basically tortured by that state gov. Their lives ruined.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:03 pm to Crimson Wraith
tired of all the stupid LGBQT or whatever the call themselves is always trying to play the victims and then sue the shite out of people. The "community" that shouts the loudest has become like PETA. I know 2 people that are gay. Both think shite like this is dumb and will hurt all the progress that has been made in their arena. Then again they are southerners by nature and not the lefties on the west coast.
If i were the bakery I would sue for punitive damages, along with NPV of at least 10 years of cash flow they have lost.
If i were the bakery I would sue for punitive damages, along with NPV of at least 10 years of cash flow they have lost.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:09 pm to yatesdog38
Also there should be some kind of Judicial review/punishment for the state level judge that made this ruling.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:24 pm to yatesdog38
quote:The problem here is that Oregon has state laws that make gays a protected class, and the owners admitted they discriminated because the couple was gay
Also there should be some kind of Judicial review/punishment for the state level judge that made this ruling.
Take out either of those variables, and this case never exists
I guess the SC could deem the state law unconstitutional somehow, but they don't want to touch it
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:28 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
The problem here is that Oregon has state laws that make gays a protected class, and the owners admitted they discriminated because the couple was gay
But the gays weren't discriminated against....
If I'm not mistaken, she didn't refuse to serve them because they were gay. She would happily make them a cake. Just not the cake they wanted. She would have made them a plain cake, would she not?
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:34 pm to JuiceTerry
And your other libertarian trait of blindly supporting the FBI/DOJ
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:34 pm to SSpaniel
Exactly
Juice plays with the facts as usual
She didn’t deny them service
Juice plays with the facts as usual
She didn’t deny them service
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:34 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
The problem here is that Oregon has state laws that make gays a protected class, and the owners admitted they discriminated because the couple was gay
This isn't true.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:43 pm to SSpaniel
She refused to bake the wedding cake because she is against gay marriage
WHICH, IMO, SHE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO - JUST TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR
Oregon doesn't see it that way
WHICH, IMO, SHE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO - JUST TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR
Oregon doesn't see it that way
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:48 pm to NIH
quote:They absolutely did, dumbass
She didn’t deny them service
You don't even know the facts, you're piggybacking spaniel, who's confusing this case with the Colorado case
quote:
Upon introductions, Aaron Klein asked for the names of the "bride and groom," at which point the customer said there were actually two brides. On hearing this, Klein informed them that the bakery does not make wedding cakes for same-sex weddings because of their religious beliefs. When the woman's mother tried to object, Klein responded by quoting Leviticus 18:22, which refers to male homosexual sex as an "abomination."[4]
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:49 pm to NIH
Using the government to financially punish businesses who don't comply with desired social norms, Classic Libertarian imo.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:53 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
Oregon doesn't see it that way
Turns out Oregon was wrong.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:55 pm to the808bass
quote:I'd love to see the SC say this
Turns out Oregon was wrong.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:59 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
Oregon has state laws that make gays a protected class,
That's even worse.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 3:01 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
spaniel, who's confusing this case with the Colorado case
I thought I might be...
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