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re: Wisconsin police release deadly shooting of police and paramedics trying to help a man

Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:26 am to
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57734 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:26 am to
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ok, so what differentiates you from the other people that were in rehab with you that went back to robbing to fund their drug habit?



I'm sober? Do you not understand that everyone with a alcohol/drug addiction doesn't rob people?
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 9:27 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:28 am to
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If they choose to OD then let them OD.


This statement is so dumb and so contradictory I can't think of a smartass reply.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11687 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:31 am to
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I'm sober? Do you not understand that everyone with a alcohol/drug addiction doesn't rob people?


ok but why are you sober and the millions of others that go into rehabs then continue using aren't?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
57377 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:32 am to
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People need to start looking out for the species as a whole.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57734 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:33 am to
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ok but why are you sober and the millions of others that go into rehabs then continue using aren't?



Because it's an insanely difficult thing to beat. It's the same reason I will always consider myself in recovery because I can frick it up in a matter of minutes. You clearly don't know anyone with substance issues and I hope you never do FWIW
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11687 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:37 am to
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This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 9:47 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
166718 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:39 am to
Druggies ruin everything. Even this thread.

Hardly any discussion of the OP.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:39 am to
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you're right, I've only lived in a family that all have issues, myself included. One of which who has been in and out of the system for the past 17 years, who dropped out of college for meth and has two children by two different dads. I have had a front row seat to her life of "addiction" and it is only until very recently that I have finally come to the revelation that she is just a POS and is the most selfish person I have ever met. She will use anyone to attempt to benefit herself. She will be going to prison soon and it is exactly where she should be.


So because one addict you know is a POS they should all be left to die despite a quick and easy way to save their life on the spot being available?

Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:40 am to
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ok but why are you sober and the millions of others that go into rehabs then continue using aren't?


I think he is saying that the disease part of the equation is the effect that it has on each individual.

We are all different, and the effect a drug has on us is different. One person can try it and not be an addict, while another can take it and the wiring of his brain causing him to be addicted to the substance.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:40 am to
Talcum and Gravy must be very concerned.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11687 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:41 am to
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So because one addict you know is a POS they should all be left to die despite a quick and easy way to save their life on the spot being available?



I never said we should let them all die, that was someone else. But I also am sick of using tons of resources to help people with victim mentalities who don't want help and just want to freeload.

Legalize all drugs and let the people who want to drown in that pathetic lives do it, but don't keep wasting time dragging them along when they don't want to help.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57734 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:41 am to
I wish you the best but clearly this discussion is a little too close to the chest with you and having a normal conversation is out the window.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11687 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:42 am to
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while another can take it and the wiring of his brain causing him to be addicted to the substance.


ok, but humans have reason. So, this person who becomes so addicted to the substance can't see that taking a hardcore drug every day is a bad idea?
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:42 am to
Too many times first responders have to convince people they need assistance due to bullshite liability issues.

The same SJWs that scream "its my body, its my right" would say that first responders should be held liable if they dont force a person to get medical treatment that will save their life. Like in this instance. They got the guy alert and talking. He is an adult and if he doesnt want further treatments then frick it. Wish him good luck and send him on his way. Of course when he later dies the ACLU and everyone else will jump up and down like a Puerto Rican short stop screaming about how they didnt force him to do whats best for him.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11687 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:43 am to
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This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 9:58 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:44 am to
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ok, but humans have reason. So, this person who becomes so addicted to the substance can't see that taking a hardcore drug every day is a bad idea?


Congratulations, you have experienced insight.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:45 am to
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FelicianaTigerfan

I don't see how the gun wasn't found before they revived him. Some major breach of protocol happened here.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57734 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:47 am to
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ohhh so now it's too close to the chest because I'm being honest by saying I'm sick of taking care of freeloaders and people who use drugs instead of benefiting society?



No, because you are letting your dead beat meth addict sister dictate your side of the discussion when it comes to addiction which is clearly influencing your view.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
80888 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:48 am to
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I genuinely believe all first responders should stop using Narcan and let the druggies off themselves


Stupid thing to say.

Should we also let babies fend for themselves when they get sick? What about old people? While we're at it, let's kill teenagers who get caught stealing milk too.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
84596 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:49 am to
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With Houston wounded and the shooting over, officers were able to take him into custody, where he later died at a local hospital.
Woah.

Did he die from a gunshot or did the narcan wear off and he died from that?
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