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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?

Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:01 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:01 pm to
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Unfortunately it is to count all persons. And they count for the purpose of representation = unless we enact some sort of 3/5 amendment to stop it.

We certainly need an amendment now that restricts representation to citizens only.
One reason that I like Bandit is that he will tell those on his “side“ when they are full of crap.

Ideologically, I do not think that noncitizens should be included in the count for purposes of apportionment. That is really irrelevant. Constitutionally, it is not even a close call.

This entire debate on the “don’t count them“ side boils down to people claiming the constitution says something because they think it SHOULD say that thing.

Rather like Roe. That Court agreed with the deluded. I rather doubt that this court would do so.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 7:05 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:12 pm to
Maybe the constitution foolishly assumed we would actually enforce immigration law and national sovereignty and wouldn’t have to account for politicians absconding their duties and allowing tens of millions of fricking foreign nationals into our country.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:17 pm to
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boils down to people claiming the constitution says something because they think it SHOULD say that thing.


Why is it ok to take the constitution literally here, but not for the 2a?

Let me guess... you are a HUGE defender of the 2a, right?
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
30276 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:26 pm to
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Unfortunately it is to count all persons. And they count for the purpose of representation = unless we enact some sort of 3/5 amendment to stop it.

We certainly need an amendment now that restricts representation to citizens only.

quote:

One reason that I like Bandit is that he will tell those on his “side“ when they are full of crap.

Ideologically, I do not think that noncitizens should be included in the count for purposes of apportionment. That is really irrelevant. Constitutionally, it is not even a close call.

This entire debate on the “don’t count them“ side boils down to people claiming the constitution says something because they think it SHOULD say that thing.

Rather like Roe. That Court agreed with the deluded. I rather doubt that this court would do so.

Pretty accurate take actually.
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