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re: The Phil Mickelson Fan Thread (week long applicants welcome)
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:28 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:28 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Look at his career before and after the ProV1. He's still a hall of famer without it, but he'd have a career arch more in line with Zach Johnson than Tom Watson. He'd have 20 or 25 wins and maybe 2 or 3 majors, imo.
What? So you’re basing your evaluation of Phil’s skill level relative to other players in the Tiger era based on a hypothetical of a piece of tech not being invented?
Tiger was an early adopter of the urethane ball too... he was one of the only players to have it in the bag in 2000/2001. So you could say if it hadn’t come around, then he doesn’t win the Tiger Slam, doesn’t set all those records. But there again, it’s a hypothetical. What if Hogan doesn’t miss 2 years of his prime for WW2 and then doesn’t get in the wreck limiting his appearances? He prob wins 100/20. We don’t know. All we have are the records. Phil’s is top 10-12 all time, and certainly better than Els, Duval, Singh, Leonard, Harrington, O’Meara, etc..
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:05 pm to dpd901
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What? So you’re basing your evaluation of Phil’s skill level relative to other players in the Tiger era based on a hypothetical of a piece of tech not being invented?
Yes, it's just a conversation.
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Tiger was an early adopter of the urethane ball too
No he didn't. He played the Titleist until the year before the ProV1 then went to the Nike ball. He went from 1st, I think, (too 3 I know) in distance to like 25 yards behind Mickelson, Els, and Singh who went from as low as 50 to around top 5. The next season tiger then switched to the new Nike ball that wasn't trash and went back to being the longest guy on Tour.
Start at the 55 minute mark for a delve into the stats
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Phil’s is top 10-12 all time, and certainly better than Els, Duval, Singh, Leonard, Harrington, O’Meara, etc..
I agree, in large part because of the invention of the ProV1 and the technology arms race.
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