re: Settle an argument.. Is Vince Young top ten all time?

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Manziel
Tebow
Frazier
Staubach
O'Brien
Wuerffel
Manning
Elway
Testaverde
Leinart

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Half of these guys didn’t even win a NC lmao

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Manziel
Tebow
Frazier
Staubach
O'Brien
Wuerffel
Manning
Elway
Testaverde
Leinart

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You forgot

Vick
Brees
Marino
Rivers
Palmer
Rodgers
Griffin III


I didn’t look at the top 10 but here’s 11-25

this ranking, we focused on the following statistics:

Team win percentage (From seasons when the quarterback was the primary starter or played at least half of the offensive snaps)
Career passer rating
Touchdowns generated per season (All TDs each player threw, ran for or caught during years they were the primary starter)
Total offense per game (All passing yards and yards from scrimmage gained during years they were the primary starter)
Career interception percentage
To qualify for this ranking, a quarterback had to meet a certain minimum threshold in at least four of those categories or in three of them if they were a Heisman Trophy winner. The minimums were .700 team win percentage, 150.0 passer rating, 25 touchdowns per season, 250 yards per game of total offense and less than a 4 percent interception rate.

This left us with 25 eligible quarterbacks.

After identifying the 25 best candidates for this ranking, the scoring system described on the previous slide did the rest of the work. Sixteen finalists were Heisman Trophy winners, but only five of those made the top 10.

Here's who missed the cut:

11. Jameis Winston, Florida State
12. Case Keenum, Houston
13. Robert Griffin III, Baylor
14. Andre Ware, Houston
15. Jason White, Oklahoma
16. Danny Wuerffel, Florida
17. Ty Detmer, BYU
18. Troy Smith, Ohio State
19. Andrew Luck, Stanford
20. Colt McCoy, Texas
21. Chris Weinke, Florida State
22. Gino Torretta, Miami (Florida)
23. Charlie Ward, Florida State
24. Landry Jones, Oklahoma
25. Vince Young, Texas

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Flutie and Newton are two more that you could argue were better.

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Newton was unquestionably better.

And VY was a poor man's Michael Vick on his absolute best day.

Tua is better as well.