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Joe diGenova discusses declassification and Origin of Obama Spying as early as 2012
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:09 am
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:09 am
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Former U.S. Attorney to the District of Columbia, Joe diGenova, discusses the declassification of intelligence documents relating to political surveillance; and the origin of the database abuses outlined by FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer…
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With President Trump returning from Japan tomorrow (5/28); and with the upcoming state visit to the U.K. coming June 3rd; a declassification “window of opportunity” opens between this Wednesday 5/29 and Saturday 6/2.
Given last weeks visit to Main Justice by congressman Mark Meadows; and considering the visit was specifically to review unredacted Page-Strzok-McCabe messages; it could be surmised the first series of declassified documents might be those communiques. Additionally, John Solomon has stated “Bucket Five” is likely the first release prior to the IG report:
Bucket Five – Intelligence documents that were presented to the Gang of Eight in 2016 that pertain to the FISA application used against U.S. person Carter Page; including all exculpatory intelligence documents that may not have been presented to the FISA Court. Presumably this would include the recently revealed State Dept Kavalac email; and the FBI transcripts from wiretaps of George Papadopoulos (also listed in Carter Page FISA).
Now that we have significant research files on the 2015 and 2016 political surveillance program; which includes the trail evident within the Weissmann/Mueller report; in combination with the Obama-era DOJ “secret research project” (their words, not mine); we are able to overlay the entire objective and gain a full understanding of how political surveillance was conducted over a period of approximately four to six years.
This is likely why there is institutional panic.
Working with a timeline, but also referencing origination material in 2015/2016 – CTH has tried to show how the program operated. The exploitation of government collected information explains an evolution from the IRS Files in 2010 to the FISA Files in 2016.
More importantly, research indicates the modern political exploitation of the NSA database, for weaponized intelligence surveillance of politicians, began mid 2012.
The FISA-702 database extraction process, and utilization of the protections within the smaller intelligence community, was the primary process. We start by reviewing the established record from the 99-page FISC opinion rendered by Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer on April 26th, 2017; and explain the details within the FISC opinion.
I would strongly urge everyone to read the FISC report (full pdf ) because Judge Collyer outlines how the DOJ, which includes the FBI, had an “institutional lack of candor” in responses to the FISA court. In essence, the Obama administration was continually lying to the court about their activity, and the rate of fourth amendment violations for illegal searches and seizures of U.S. persons’ private information for multiple years.
Unfortunately, due to intelligence terminology Judge Collyer’s brief and ruling is not an easy read for anyone unfamiliar with the FISA processes outlined. The complexity also helps the media avoid discussing, and as a result most Americans have no idea the scale and scope of the issues. So we’ll try to break down the language.
LINK
Former U.S. Attorney to the District of Columbia, Joe diGenova, discusses the declassification of intelligence documents relating to political surveillance; and the origin of the database abuses outlined by FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer…
.
With President Trump returning from Japan tomorrow (5/28); and with the upcoming state visit to the U.K. coming June 3rd; a declassification “window of opportunity” opens between this Wednesday 5/29 and Saturday 6/2.
Given last weeks visit to Main Justice by congressman Mark Meadows; and considering the visit was specifically to review unredacted Page-Strzok-McCabe messages; it could be surmised the first series of declassified documents might be those communiques. Additionally, John Solomon has stated “Bucket Five” is likely the first release prior to the IG report:
Bucket Five – Intelligence documents that were presented to the Gang of Eight in 2016 that pertain to the FISA application used against U.S. person Carter Page; including all exculpatory intelligence documents that may not have been presented to the FISA Court. Presumably this would include the recently revealed State Dept Kavalac email; and the FBI transcripts from wiretaps of George Papadopoulos (also listed in Carter Page FISA).
Now that we have significant research files on the 2015 and 2016 political surveillance program; which includes the trail evident within the Weissmann/Mueller report; in combination with the Obama-era DOJ “secret research project” (their words, not mine); we are able to overlay the entire objective and gain a full understanding of how political surveillance was conducted over a period of approximately four to six years.
This is likely why there is institutional panic.
Working with a timeline, but also referencing origination material in 2015/2016 – CTH has tried to show how the program operated. The exploitation of government collected information explains an evolution from the IRS Files in 2010 to the FISA Files in 2016.
More importantly, research indicates the modern political exploitation of the NSA database, for weaponized intelligence surveillance of politicians, began mid 2012.
The FISA-702 database extraction process, and utilization of the protections within the smaller intelligence community, was the primary process. We start by reviewing the established record from the 99-page FISC opinion rendered by Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer on April 26th, 2017; and explain the details within the FISC opinion.
I would strongly urge everyone to read the FISC report (full pdf ) because Judge Collyer outlines how the DOJ, which includes the FBI, had an “institutional lack of candor” in responses to the FISA court. In essence, the Obama administration was continually lying to the court about their activity, and the rate of fourth amendment violations for illegal searches and seizures of U.S. persons’ private information for multiple years.
Unfortunately, due to intelligence terminology Judge Collyer’s brief and ruling is not an easy read for anyone unfamiliar with the FISA processes outlined. The complexity also helps the media avoid discussing, and as a result most Americans have no idea the scale and scope of the issues. So we’ll try to break down the language.
LINK
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:17 am to cajunangelle
NSA 702 queries by Obama FBI and DOJ contractors. That was the avenue to spy on American citizens, particularly Obama's political opponents. Fusion GPS was likely one of those contractors and specifically Nell Ohr working for Fusion GPS.
And she got the wrong Michael Cohen in Prague from the 702 query that led to getting them exposed. Oops, the wrong Michael Cohen.
Oh, and Cruz was extensively spied on before Trump.
And many congressional reps and senators before Cruz.
:kern:
And she got the wrong Michael Cohen in Prague from the 702 query that led to getting them exposed. Oops, the wrong Michael Cohen.
Oh, and Cruz was extensively spied on before Trump.
And many congressional reps and senators before Cruz.
:kern:
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:22 am to cajunangelle
The best thing to do is listen to the video when you can. Also I am still trying to wrap my head around Obama carte blanche' spying on his political opponents as early as 2012, gets called out by a FISA judge (with what punishment exactly?)
Then Obama has the mother fricking audacity to use the political oppo research fake Dossier; colluding with Russians and setting up Trump campaign officials (with even 10K and honeypots from our CIA) to entrap them and is now caught red-handed again...
Sounds like the only thing that was stopping this from exposure (according to Digenova) was Wray and Gina Haspel. So now the declassification brings it all out. (Unless Horowitz sugar coats a report again and Barr doesn't show his John Durham work?) Protecting the deep state again...
Then Obama has the mother fricking audacity to use the political oppo research fake Dossier; colluding with Russians and setting up Trump campaign officials (with even 10K and honeypots from our CIA) to entrap them and is now caught red-handed again...
Sounds like the only thing that was stopping this from exposure (according to Digenova) was Wray and Gina Haspel. So now the declassification brings it all out. (Unless Horowitz sugar coats a report again and Barr doesn't show his John Durham work?) Protecting the deep state again...
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:23 am to cajunangelle
i am awaiting the release that more then just Trump were "investigated" aka, spied on. and waiting to see if Romney was spied on in 2012....
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:26 am to GumboPot
See my last reply. Obama was already caught once there is absolutely no denying it...
LINK
I am trying to understand (it is a lot of information) how the FISA judge remedied the situation. Was Obama just called out in secret by her with vague non mainstream media reports no one believed at the time?
The nerve of him to then go ahead and craft the Papa, Carter Page horshshit and set them up, therefore setting up Trump.
LINK
I am trying to understand (it is a lot of information) how the FISA judge remedied the situation. Was Obama just called out in secret by her with vague non mainstream media reports no one believed at the time?
The nerve of him to then go ahead and craft the Papa, Carter Page horshshit and set them up, therefore setting up Trump.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 10:27 am
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:30 am to tigeraddict
Remember Romney's accts parked off shore? They guised it under tax returns stuff to cover. Romney has accts parked off shore what politician doesn't? They probably blackmailed Romney as well as Roberts.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:31 am to cajunangelle
quote:
More importantly, research indicates the modern political exploitation of the NSA database, for weaponized intelligence surveillance of politicians, began mid 2012.
Mittens will still cuck out and go against Trump.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:33 am to cajunangelle
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I am trying to understand (it is a lot of information) how the FISA judge remedied the situation.
Great question and I have no idea.
Probably just a slap on the wrist to CYA herself.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:40 am to cajunangelle
It is amazing how the main stream media including Fox News is so disinterested in this story.
This is a president and his administration using intelligence community assets to spy on his political opponents, one of the BIGGEST stories in American history, and the media are:
And Sundance at a small obscure conservative website with very little budget is exposing Obama spying more than any media outlet in the world...besides John Soloman and a couple of other individual reporters that get very little air time.
This is a president and his administration using intelligence community assets to spy on his political opponents, one of the BIGGEST stories in American history, and the media are:
And Sundance at a small obscure conservative website with very little budget is exposing Obama spying more than any media outlet in the world...besides John Soloman and a couple of other individual reporters that get very little air time.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:48 am to GumboPot
Mark Warner texts. What a slime. And didn't Rubio/other R's and Burr provide cover for Warner?
https://www.scribd.com/document/371101285/TEXTS-Mark-Warner-texted-with-Russian-oligarch-lobbyist-in-effort-to-contact-Christopher-Steele
https://www.scribd.com/document/371101285/TEXTS-Mark-Warner-texted-with-Russian-oligarch-lobbyist-in-effort-to-contact-Christopher-Steele
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:54 am to tigeraddict
quote:“institutional lack of candor”
Judge Collyer outlines how the DOJ, which includes the FBI, had an “institutional lack of candor” in responses to the FISA court. In essence, the Obama administration was continually lying to the court about their activity, and the rate of fourth amendment violations for illegal searches and seizures of U.S. persons’ private information for multiple years.
wow.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:20 am to GumboPot
The FISA-702 database extraction process were used in 2012 for oppo research and (my opinion) blackmailing possibly Roberts.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:25 am to cajunangelle
It would have to have gone back further than 2012 for them to blackmail Roberts since it was March of 2010 when the ACA was passed. But I am sure it started in Jan of 2009, IYAM.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:39 am to MrLarson
Maybe 2012 was just when they got caught? You have a excellent point it was 2010 when Obama spied on congress, reporters and SCOTUS.
It looks like Obama spied since 2009.
Tapes released by Federal Judge G. Murray Snow — preserved on a Whistleblower Soundcloud page — show real estate billionaire Timothy Blixseth explaining Brennan and Clapper’s surveillance program to Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and detective Mike Zullo. The existence of this surveillance program has been corroborated by Wikileaks’ “Vault 7” release and by the public comments of former CIA and NSA contractor Dennis Montgomery, who says he worked on the program for Brennan and Clapper.
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The documents show it was back in 2011 when the FISA court first found NSA's procedures to be 'stautorially and Constitutionally deficient with respect to their protection of U.S. person information.'
LINK
It looks like Obama spied since 2009.
quote:
They detail specific violations that the NSA or FBI disclosed to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court or the Justice Department's national security division during President Obama’s tenure between 2009 and 2016.
LINK
Tapes released by Federal Judge G. Murray Snow — preserved on a Whistleblower Soundcloud page — show real estate billionaire Timothy Blixseth explaining Brennan and Clapper’s surveillance program to Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and detective Mike Zullo. The existence of this surveillance program has been corroborated by Wikileaks’ “Vault 7” release and by the public comments of former CIA and NSA contractor Dennis Montgomery, who says he worked on the program for Brennan and Clapper.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:41 am to cajunangelle
Funny how the blithering idiots never post in these kinds of threads.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:43 am to cajunangelle
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“institutional lack of candor”
Institutional euphemisms are out of control.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:05 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:22 pm to MrLarson
If non democrats pulled this on a democrat incoming administration and political opponents; they would currently be in solitary confinement.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:08 pm to MrLarson
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:13 pm to cajunangelle
In that "Whistleblower soundcloud page" link, if you listen to the second audio recording, between 17:30 and 19:00, this whstleblower (Blixeth) shows the interviewers documents (or maybe an electronic pdf?) and states that Obama/Brenner, etc.. hacked one of the Judges of the FISA court, AND John Roberts.
This was only 3 million records he broght with him, out of set of 900 million. The first two audio recordings are worth a listen, or at least to 19:00 on the second audio.
This was only 3 million records he broght with him, out of set of 900 million. The first two audio recordings are worth a listen, or at least to 19:00 on the second audio.
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