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re: If Alabama was actually serious about lowering abortions
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:25 am to Muthsera
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:25 am to Muthsera
quote:When you don’t punish something, you will get more of it. When you punish it, you will get less of it. That’s generally how it goes in life. It doesn’t mean you will get none of something by punishing it, but you will get less. Murder is illegal but it still happens. If you made willful homicide legal, you will get more of it.
As I said to another poster, show me one time in history when puritanical legislation prevented people from having sex.
Black people broke laws against interracial sex at the height of Jim Crow when 5,000 of them were being lynched.
Gay people broke laws against homosexual sex when they risked loaing their jobs, friends, family, and freedom by being outed, not to mention getting their heads bashed in by a misread signal to the wrong person.
Religious people get sat down and taught that premarital sex is a sin and they will burn in hell for eternity if they don't abstain and repent for the lust in their heart and still have sex.
Likewise, when you remove laws and stigmas around extramarital sex you will get more extramarital sex. It used to be that the stigma was so great around unwed pregnancy that people would get married to avoid it. That was better for children and for the parents in different ways. That rarely happens anymore and abortion has replaced marriage in those situations.
Sin is the problem and more sin is not the solution.
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:38 am to FooManChoo
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When you don’t punish something, you will get more of it. When you punish it, you will get less of it. That’s generally how it goes in life.
This is fricking laughable.
War on Drugs.
Prohibition.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:25 am to FooManChoo
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It used to be that the stigma was so great around unwed pregnancy that people would get married to avoid it. That was better for children and for the parents in different ways. That rarely happens anymore and abortion has replaced marriage in those situations.
Sin is the problem and more sin is not the solution.
Some form of social stigma is needed in our society. I see that frequently when I notice just how large the single motherhood rate is.
However, the old way of social stigma (forcing marriage) has arguably not made the problem any better. What you end up with is alot of unhappy marriages where spouses are bitter and normally some form degenerate behavior (cheating, alcoholism, etc.) takes place.
Coltaine on YouTube put it best in his series analyzing birth control, marriage, and social influences. People look at the pre 1970s as a golden age of marriage, but that's through rose-tinted glasses. In truth many of those marriages were a disaster.
And if social norms are the only thing keeping divorce from happening instead of love and commitment, then it wasn't better, just marketed well.
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