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re: GOT Season 8 Episode 4 Discussion

Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:21 pm to
Serious Question:

Is it true that the Vake Army wasnt there? If so why? Granted it's great if they weren't there, but did they intentionally leave out a fighting force for the Battle of Winterfell.

The show will probably use plot teleportation, but shouldn't it take awhile for the Second Sons to leave Essos to get to Kings Landing.

Are there any Tullies left to fight, I assumed most of them went down with Blackfish at Riverrun.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:31 pm to
One Lord didn't show up as he promised to do back when Jon was crowned King of the North. He also refused to help Jon fight the Boltons. Swore an oath even.

Dany and Jon need to take the dragons, burn his castle to the ground, along with his family, and then tell his army to fight for them or else they get the same.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:38 pm to
You have to remember in the BotB Lord Royce only sent his Calvary which was a small part of the Vale Army. The strength of their Army is not only the Calvary but the ground soldiers that are well armored and supposed to be trained to battle under the worst of conditions in combat. This was mentioned several times on the show by different people. Robb said if he had the Knights of the Vale under his command he couldn’t be beat. Littlefinger talked them up and so did Tywin once when he was discussing the fact that he hopes the Vale stays out of the War of the 5 kings. There are still quite a few Vale soldiers with Robin Arryn. I don’t know if they will use them or not.

Melisandre went back to Essos she could have sent word about the impending battle(s) to the 2ns Sons and for all we know they could be on their way already.
Not sure about many Tullies being left. Should be some Frey’s left though they are pretty much worthless. Should be the full Dornish Army left as well as they never got on the ships Dany sent because Euron intercepted them.
What I hope doesn’t happen is Daario shows up with like 15,000 2nd Sons that to me would just be unrealistic I think they had 5,000 or so when Dany left them in Essos. These guys can write whatever they want though.
We are getting someone to either show up and ‘save the day’ or something is going to have to happen to have either the Lannister Army or Golden Company to turn on Cersei before or during the battle. I could see the dragons lighting the place up with fire and Euron tucking tail and trying to bail once he thinks all is lost.

What I want to know is where are Cersei, Euron, and the mountain riding off to in the trailer I doubt they are going for a joy ride. There has to be a reason they are either going to talk to someone or to ferry their troops somewhere but why would they leave their strong position?
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Is it true that the Vake Army wasnt there? If so why? Granted it's great if they weren't there, but did they intentionally leave out a fighting force for the Battle of Winterfell.


There were a bunch of them standing behind Brienne and Jamie.
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