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Here’s the deal with LSU Baseball and Injuries
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:06 am
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:06 am
We are not overworking pitchers, it’s not the coach, it’s not the strength and conditioning. Let’s get all that out the way now.
The real reason that LSU (and other schools) are starting seeing a rise in injuries is because of the awareness and education that we now have.
We are now able to educate pitchers on what is pain vs what is sore. We are able to be more cautious and front end attack serious arm injuries before they occur (TJ aside).
New and recent Strength and Conditioning programs have helped pitchers throw harder which puts added stress on the muscles and tendons which leads to more soreness.
However some players still won’t communicate the exact feelings they have in their arms because they don’t want to get shut down because schools have become more cautious over the recent years.
TLDR: Rise In Injuries = Rise In awareness and Programs using Caution/Preventative measures
The real reason that LSU (and other schools) are starting seeing a rise in injuries is because of the awareness and education that we now have.
We are now able to educate pitchers on what is pain vs what is sore. We are able to be more cautious and front end attack serious arm injuries before they occur (TJ aside).
New and recent Strength and Conditioning programs have helped pitchers throw harder which puts added stress on the muscles and tendons which leads to more soreness.
However some players still won’t communicate the exact feelings they have in their arms because they don’t want to get shut down because schools have become more cautious over the recent years.
TLDR: Rise In Injuries = Rise In awareness and Programs using Caution/Preventative measures
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:11 am to 225Tyga
I can go with this - it’s also the mlb approach - maybe we won’t lose as many top recruits to mlb.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:12 am to 225Tyga
That is a good start on the list of reasons we're seeing more issues. But it's not comprehensive. I don't mean that as a slight. A lot of people bring up valid points and say it's THE issue. But the reason there is no silver bullet to fix everything is because there isn't one single cause of everything.
And people are constantly learning.
ETA:
On this, I wouldn't say it's necessarily that the kids don't want to fully communicate what they're feeling (though I'm sure that happens too). But most often I would say it's that they don't know how to fully communicate it.
And people are constantly learning.
ETA:
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However some players still won’t communicate the exact feelings they have in their arms because they don’t want to get shut down because schools have become more cautious over the recent years.
On this, I wouldn't say it's necessarily that the kids don't want to fully communicate what they're feeling (though I'm sure that happens too). But most often I would say it's that they don't know how to fully communicate it.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 9:15 am
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:13 am to 225Tyga
List the SEC schools that have as much arm injuries to pitchers as LSU does, I don’t doubt there are some but not to the extent as LSU.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:13 am to 225Tyga
In your opinion, does this rise in injury have anything to do with the kids throwing way more now at younger ages (travel ball, select ball, etc) than we use to? Basically more mileage by the time they reach college.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:14 am to 225Tyga
Are you in the profession? Just curious as you used “we” a lot.
I’ve never thought about that aspect of the injures. I appreciate the different take on it
I’ve never thought about that aspect of the injures. I appreciate the different take on it
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:15 am to 225Tyga
You do make some pretty valid points, but we are still dealing with more injuries than any team I have ever seen before.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:16 am to 225Tyga
The nfl is more than ever examining concussions and their knowledge is by far greater than ever... and last year the drop in concussions was exponential.
So your argument about college baseball becoming more knowledgeable equaling more injuries... is invalid
So your argument about college baseball becoming more knowledgeable equaling more injuries... is invalid
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:28 am to 225Tyga
In the Auburn /Vanderbilt game last night the Auburn starting pitcher went out in the 2nd or 3rd inning last night with arm issues. Ben and whoever else was announcing talk about the rash of pitching inquires in the SEC this year. Didn't hear the entire conversation, maybe someone else can comment.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:57 am to 225Tyga
Injury updates
Re Watson
All of this was previously posted, thought the quote on Reid was funny
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The freshman infielder has been medically cleared to play as LSU prepares to face Alabama this weekend, LSU coach Paul Mainieri announced, and the skipper strongly hinted that Dugas will be in the lineup for the series opener Friday night.
Re Watson
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“The injury that he had, we think is ok now for him to be able to play,” Mainieri said. “It’s just that he’s caught a virus or the flu.”
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On the bright side, Chris Reid appears set to return to the starting lineup at this base this weekend. Reid has done everything in practice except run at a full sprint, and as Mainieri put it, speed isn’t exactly the biggest piece of Reid’s game anyway.
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The other development on the injury front is that sophomore infielder Hal Hughes will be limited this weekend coming off both a thumb injury and a collision. Hughes will likely only be used for defensive purposes, Mainieri said.
All of this was previously posted, thought the quote on Reid was funny
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:10 am to 225Tyga
Agree.
From what I've gathered in the past from comments by just about everybody, CPM is really cautious with pitchers.
This is a double-edged sword. On one hand players and parents trust how he handles them and know that he won't overwork them so they're more likely to join LSU instead of a competing program. On the other hand, it drives the fans crazy and can cause some questionable pitching decisions and possibly reduce your chances to win games.
From what I've gathered in the past from comments by just about everybody, CPM is really cautious with pitchers.
This is a double-edged sword. On one hand players and parents trust how he handles them and know that he won't overwork them so they're more likely to join LSU instead of a competing program. On the other hand, it drives the fans crazy and can cause some questionable pitching decisions and possibly reduce your chances to win games.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:01 am to 225Tyga
Honestly, I think it is a combination of everything.
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:27 pm to 225Tyga
I'd like to add, kids pitching close to year round.
College coaches are CONSTANTLY talking about how important it is for a kid to play 2-3 sports, no matter what sport it is.
Yet HS and travel ball coaches are constantly forcing kids to commit to a single sport early on "if they want to be successful"
Kids and teens should not be pitching 9-10 months out of the year. Especially throwing harder.
College coaches are CONSTANTLY talking about how important it is for a kid to play 2-3 sports, no matter what sport it is.
Yet HS and travel ball coaches are constantly forcing kids to commit to a single sport early on "if they want to be successful"
Kids and teens should not be pitching 9-10 months out of the year. Especially throwing harder.
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