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Why Orgeron may succeed against Bama - And why Miles didn't

Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:04 pm
Why Orgeron may succeed against Bama - And why Miles lost 5 in a row.

Match-ups... Miles ran a pro-style offense. Nick's D destroys pro style offenses.

Now, Orgeron is bringing in the Spread/RPO AND with a QB who is a run-threat.

An article from Dec of 2015 is still relevant:

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It's not just that LSU has lost five in a row to Alabama. It's that LSU's style is a terrible matchup against the Tide. Saban's defenses typically destroy pro-style offenses. Ole Miss's spread has won two in a row against Bama. Ohio State's and Oklahoma's versions of the spread have beaten Bama in the last two Sugar Bowls. Auburn gave Saban's defense fits when Nick Marshall was under center.

To move the ball on a Saban defense generally requires a no-huddle attack that prevents Saban from engaging in situational substitutions and use of the quarterback in the running game.


Nothing has changed. Bama still steamrolls teams with lesser talent - with the exception of Clemson who runs the Spread/RPO - Clemson has adjusted to Bama's powerhouse defense, and walked all over Bama in the Natty.

Looks like LSU has made the right adjustment also.

LINK
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:05 pm to
How'd his last two home games against Bama go again?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:05 pm to
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Orgeron is bringing in the Spread/RPO AND with a QB who is a run-threat.
ill believe it when I see it. Been hearing this for a decade now
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 5:06 pm
Posted by 8miles
slidell
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:06 pm to
Let’s hope we can at least score a point this year !
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:06 pm to
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How'd his last two home games against Bama go again?

New offense. Wait and see.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:07 pm to


Keep on trollin
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:07 pm to
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ill believe it when I see it. Been hearing this for a decade now


Me too, but I do believe Joe Brady is the truth.
Posted by Marrero Tigah
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:07 pm to
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Looks like LSU has made the right adjustment also.



Still TBD, baw.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59654 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:07 pm to
I hope you’re right but you’ve got your facts wrong, Miles did beat Saban 3 times which is as many as anybody els since he arrived at Alabama.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

Why Orgeron may succeed against Bama

How do we measure success for O? At this point kicking a single FG as time expired would be a success.
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why Miles lost 5 in a row.

Better yet why has O, who was hired to do better than Miles, lost three in a row?
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Miles ran a pro-style offense. Nick's D destroys pro style offenses.

Then how did Miles' offenses manage to put up at least 13 points in four of his last five games?
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Now, Orgeron

Mustered a total of 10 points in three combines games against Bama.
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Nothing has changed.

Correct. O was hired to improve the offense and beat Bama and nothing has changed.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
37769 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:08 pm to
Just like every OC before him was the truth
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
3903 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:09 pm to
0-5, 0-3; whats the difference? In two years, if the Orgeron era does indeed last that long, O will be 0-5 as well.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:09 pm to
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I hope you’re right but you’ve got your facts wrong, Miles did beat Saban 3 times which is as many as anybody els since he arrived at Alabama.
Sorry, did miles not lose his last 5 in a row to Bama?
Posted by jivy26
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:10 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 6:27 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
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86842 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:11 pm to
Is miles still the coach here? Why are you bringing him up?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59654 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:12 pm to
Yes he did but that’s not what you said in your thread title.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
28349 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:12 pm to
Hey Ree! See you’re still trying everything to keep your job. Most of us are sending messages to the ADs office to end this Alleva shite should his arse get stomped again and lost to TAMU. Two losses is not good enough to save his job. But don’t worry that’s not going to happen anyway he will lose 3 to 4 games this year. 2020 we will have a new coach.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:13 pm to
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Nick's D destroys pro style offenses

Clemson isn't walking through that door.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:16 pm to
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He won't out coach Saban, they are on different levels. If Saban retires and O is still coaching then for sure.
orgeron doesn't have to out-coach Saban - O has people for that. Brady/E has to field a solid Spread/RPO - I believe they will.

The Spread/RPO is Bama's Achille's heel. That's where you attack them.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
69633 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 5:17 pm to
0 points at home two times..

can't play any more scared than that.

hopefully that changes
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