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Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:35 am
Posted by new roads
Member since Aug 2009
142 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:35 am
Has tops really been about building real-estate wealth for the state of Louisiana? Has it caused increased inflation of college tuition?

Just curious as I see the about of real-estate value increase at campuses across the state if this was the idea all along.

Thoughts?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41193 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:37 am to
It was supposed to be a trust fund set up to keep the beat and brightest home. Then the legislature got ahold of it, dumbed down requirements, and allowed fees to sky rocket because now tuition was covered with interest free, no payback, free money
Posted by new roads
Member since Aug 2009
142 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:42 am to
Well, its not free. We are paying for it. My question is has it artificially inflated tuition and put more kids in college as a side strategy of building wealth for the state through huge real-estate investments.

So, basically who is paying for all these new buildings? What has the budget at each university done since TOPS was initiated?
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:43 am to
TOPS, from what I understand, is actual socialism in Louisiana
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27341 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:31 am to
quote:

My question is has it artificially inflated tuition and put more kids in college as a side strategy of building wealth for the state through huge real-estate investments


I don't understand the real estate investments part. But what the legislature did with TOPS, especially during the Jindal years, was that they reduced direct funding for the universities while maintaining TOPS. They treated TOPS as kind of a portable block grant that would go to the universities where the students enrolled.

The reduction in general funding for the universities cash starved the universities, forcing the shifting of operating expenses to students through higher tuition and increased fees.

So it wasn't TOPS driving up the cost of tuition. It was the shifting of the funding structure from general funding to TOPS grant funding, and making cuts which were greater than the TOPS funding. The net result is that the general funding was reduced in an amount greater than TOPS, eliminating TOPS as being any sort of benefit in real dollars to either the students or the universities.
Posted by tigerdude12
Member since Feb 2015
811 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:04 pm to
I think it does raise tuition. LSU raises tuition. TOPS covers it(not all but a large portion) .Basically, raising TOPS is raising your taxes.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57762 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

I don't understand the real estate investments part.


TOPS has been an economic engine for Baton Rouge as it has funded a large increase in student enrollment at LSU. Just from Fall 2009 to Fall 2018 there was an increase over just over 2,300 extra students.

Due to this extra population we've seen an explosion of growth along Burbank, especially at Burbank/Lee. Ten years ago there was the McDonald's and the shopping center and then nothing until you got to Gardere, now there are restaurants, stores gas stations and more apartment complexes than you can shake a dead cat it.

You've also had growth and reinvestment just north of the campus along Nicholson as wealthy families whose kids got TOPS used what was originally their kids' college fund to buy condos there for their kids (especially during periods where LSU hasn't had enough housing).

This was all built due to TOPS. Were TOPS to go away tomorrow the vast, VAST majority of those new apartments along Burbank would go Section 8 within 5 years, the Nicholson properties would take a bit longer to degrade.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41669 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:17 pm to
There has been no real boom because of TOPS. I think the apartment boom you see is partially for that reason, but it’s more like students moving from the older, crime ridden areas to the new areas.

2,300 more students wouldn’t fill up all those new apartments and condos.
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