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re: Alcohol while doing low carb / Keto

Posted on 4/8/19 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 4:24 pm to
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Straight liquor has no carbs, but you have to keep in mind that the body will burn off alcohol first, storing all fat & carbs eaten in the meantime. Also keep in mind that alcohol is very calorie dense at 7cal/gram



Ethanol is a carbohydrate. It fits the definition perfectly.

It does not stop fat burning, ethanol creates fat in your liver.

Ethanol and fructose are processed very similarly in the liver. 90% of the ethanol and fructose molecule make new fat (de novo lipogenesis). One can of coke will have the same fat creation abilities as one can of Budweiser. The only issue with coke (or drinks and food with fructose) is you don't get that immediate feedback to stop as you do with ethanol. Note, anything with high fructose corn syrup as an ingredient is not fat free.

Fructose causes people to get fat just like beer/alcohol.


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This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8394 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 7:27 pm to
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Ethanol is a carbohydrate. It fits the definition perfectly.


Funny thing, my BG level is 71 after 1/2 a bottle of wine and steak/bacon. I literally just measured it (Fasted all day, bacon at 6 and steak at 7) after a year of not knowing where my monitor was. I've done several self experiments with steak, bacon, eggs, wine, bourbon, vodka...(I need to do beer) to see the effects on BG over the years. It isn't much. Red wine may bring it up to 85 after a 75 baseline. Chardonnay and chianti reduced it after 4 glasses (I'd like to try this again) by 12-15. Crappy Trader Joe's $3 Buck Chuck Merlot raised it from 89 to 94. Trader's Chardonnay reduced it, 87 to 72....after 4 (5oz) regular size glasses of wine. Another one that raised it was Trader's Shiraz, 78-94 after 4 glasses...hardly a bump.

Bourbon? After 3 (two finger) pours of on the rocks, 89 rasied to 94 over the course of the night.

I actually agree that it doesn't stop fat burning. However, I think we are confounding a lot of data on "what" exactly is causing the fat in the liver. Is it an excess of wine, bourbon, or gin? Or, is it beer? I have a sneaky feeling that beer, and the excess in crappy foods associate with drunkeness.....pizza, fast food....etc...are our main problem.

Pick up a BG monitor at Walmart for a grand total of $50 (monitor, lancets, the test strips may be more) for a year's worth of fun.

I really think ethanol is different from carbohydrates. Too tired to really dive into chemistry currently. But their different reactions in the body make me think they are inherently different.


***before hitting the bed. 1 bottle of wine ended up with a measure of 55mg/dl
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 6:35 am
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