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re: A question about stereotyping and white supremacy

Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:31 pm to
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:31 pm to
I did get in a fight with a cracker in the seventh grade, I’m sure it was my fault.... skin color and all.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:32 pm to
Attacks on me isn’t about me..... durp
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:32 pm to
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Actually happened, you haven’t guessed the race yet? Why? Narrative?


Liberals are politically correct pussies.

If he thought they were white , he would have already said whitey did it.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6213 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:35 pm to
You haven’t assumed my race, he has .... agenda, narrative.... who was I a victim of.


They always judge on skin color.... poor racist dems
Posted by BogeyGolf
Minot
Member since Nov 2016
974 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:44 pm to
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your not to smrt.


Do you get paid to post?
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:46 pm to
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Liberals are politically correct pussies.

If he thought they were white , he would have already said whitey did it.

So there's two things wrong here.

1) I'm not liberal

2) It doesn't matter what race he nor his assailants were. These are singular, anecdotal examples that are not representative of the statistical likelihood that a member of any given race will be on the business end of racism

When I posit that non-whites are three times as likely to be victimized as whites are, this refers to the relationship between two things:
1) non-whites who are victimized
2) whites who are victimized

This is simple math. What's the problem?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74227 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:00 am to
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1) I'm not liberal



Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48639 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:09 am to
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This is simple math. What's the problem?


Well...it certainly is simple. Not the most scientific approach...but simple, yes.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:12 am to
Of course you, like me, are smart enough to realize that whites are statistically less likely than non-whites to be the targets of racism, right?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48639 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:15 am to
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Of course you, like me, are smart enough to realize that whites are statistically less likely than non-whites to be the targets of racism, right


Well...when you use terms like “statistically”, I would prefer to see some actual statistics regarding the subject matter rather than the non-scientific approaches you take. I think defining the term racism and what constitutes being a victim of racism would be helpful as well.

I suspect you are probably correct, but I tend to rely upon more than just my gut when making an assertion. Of course, you don’t seem too concerned with that. You prefer to place the burden on others to prove your assertions wrong.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 12:16 am
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:45 am to
I appreciate the sea-lioning attempt here, but this should all be obvious. Whites comprise of 72% of the people in the United States, so it's virtually impossible to conclude that whites do not comprise of a majority of the racists in the United States. This means that the 50 shades of racism are far less a threat to whites than they are to non-whites.

Your average white person is fair game to 28% of the racists in the United States, and he blends in with 72% of the population.

Your average black person is fair game to 87% of the racists in the United States, and he blends in with just 13% of the population.

For the sake of discussion, let's assume that 1 in every 10,000 people commits an act of violence against a random person of another random race. Whites (72% of the population) can only be the victims of 28% of said acts (with a reasonable margin of error). Blacks (13%) are fair game to 87% of the attacks. Yadda yadda yadda...in this black and white (pardon the pun) vacuum, any given black person is more than 17 times more likely to be attacked than any given white person.

The idea that all other factors could possibly serve to mitigate such a disparity in likelihood is a hard sell, to say the least.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 12:46 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 1:42 am to
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Some Muslims/ illegal immigrants in history have done terrible things and some Muslims/ illegal immigrants in the present have said and done some terrible things = we need to be understanding and be careful not to lump all Muslims/ illegal immigrants together because they're all individuals and not responsible for the actions of their group. 


If it helps, this is where I stand for all races. People in general will let evil win as long as it benefits them or doesn't hurt them.

As for crimes, the real blame is our judicial system. We have two justice systems in the US, one for whites and one for other races. It isnt so much that whites should be punished more, but that other races should receive less severe sentences equivalent to their white counterparts.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 1:51 am to
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Possumslayer


If you're being honest, I hate that those things happened to you.

However, xiv isnt wrong. As stated, there are always exceptions. Probability doesnt mean it wont happen, it means it has a lower chance of happening to the average person.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:41 am to
Which of the two paragraphs do you believe to be the most honest course for treating groups of people?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48639 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:24 am to
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The idea that all other factors could possibly serve to mitigate such a disparity in likelihood is a hard sell, to say the least.


Still...in the name of science, definitions and research would be quite helpful. I prefer not to deal In conjecture.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:31 am to
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You can frick right off. Radical Islamists had been radicalized in that mosque. what part of that do you not understand?


And the chans have radicalized a few of their own. Does that excuse or justify violence against them?


No takers?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:34 am to
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People whose thoughts align with the OP need either a therapist or a math teacher.

Assuming that people of all races are equally racist, a white person is mathematically only 1/3 as likely to be the victim of racism as all other races combined since there's about a 3:1 white/non-white ratio in this country.

This is called white privilege. Non-white persons are mathematically 3x as likely to experience racism than white persons are, unless anyone can provide data suggesting that non-whites are more than 3x as racist as whites are.
quote:
all white people have in some way contributed to racism
Anyone who ignores the facts above is complicit in some form of racism





You are insane.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261513 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:35 am to
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Your average white person is fair game to 28% of the racists in the United States, and he blends in with 72% of the population.

Your average black person is fair game to 87% of the racists in the United States, and he blends in with just 13% of the population.


Most live in neighborhoods, towns, cities where they are the majority.

The average black or white person is exposed to racism online, not in person.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:36 am to
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And the chans have radicalized a few of their own. Does that excuse or justify violence against them



Are you really comparing the minuscule amount of crazies from the chans to radical Islam. Do you realize how dumb you are? There's no comparison.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:37 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261513 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:39 am to
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In 84 I was attacked and robbed by a dozen teenagers ata convenience store
In 95 I was robbed broken into my house and stole thousands of dollars
In 2004 I was reared ended at a high speed while parked at a red light a 7:30am
Guess the race.....


Listen, I get it. I live in an area where a disproportionate amount of crime is committed by other races, primarily native. But I am not going to group people by the weakest links, and I expect them to offer me the same treatment.

Let's get back to treating people as individuals, not tribes.
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