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Wade and LSU Situation...Could we be fooled?
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:16 am
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:16 am
I know I have posted several scenarios regarding Will Wade and the administration. Everything just seems extremely strange to me. Never has LSU handled situations this publicly. IMO, it seems like LSU and Wade may have handled this situation internally and decided it was best for Wade to sit out the remainder of the year I hopes to keep him long term. If find it odd that both parties are purposely contacting media members to communicate. This tells me that they want someone (the ncaa) to know that they (LSU) is being extremely firm with how they are handling the situation.
I think it could be possibly that Wade came clean to LSU and company after the Smart leak and told them he is worried someone more incriminating evidence could come out. This is why they held smart out until right befor the game. Like I said, I think LSU and Wade could possibly be using the media to paint the picture that they want.
Anyone else think this could be possible? The public statements just seem extremely odd to me. Think about all issues that have happened within the LSU athletic, when have they ever been so public?!?
Either way I hope we can stick together as a team and make a deep run in the tournament.
I think it could be possibly that Wade came clean to LSU and company after the Smart leak and told them he is worried someone more incriminating evidence could come out. This is why they held smart out until right befor the game. Like I said, I think LSU and Wade could possibly be using the media to paint the picture that they want.
Anyone else think this could be possible? The public statements just seem extremely odd to me. Think about all issues that have happened within the LSU athletic, when have they ever been so public?!?
Either way I hope we can stick together as a team and make a deep run in the tournament.
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Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:18 am to GeauxTime9
No. If he thought worse stuff was going to come out he wouldn’t have circulated that statement Thursday
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:18 am to GeauxTime9
It’s more probable that the administration is playing checkers while Will Wade is playing chess.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:19 am to GeauxTime9
And publicly scar the universities image? And have negative press for weeks?
Did you even read what you're suggesting?
Did you even read what you're suggesting?
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:21 am to Elleshoe
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No. If he thought worse stuff was going to come out he wouldn’t have circulated that statement Thursday
That’s a good point. But, this could have been planned so LSU could still act firm in their stance. Like they did with the follow up statement.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:24 am to pellietigersaint
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And publicly scar the universities image? And have negative press for weeks?
Did you even read what you're suggesting?
I agree with your public scarring statement. That’s why I don’t understand why we have been so public regarding this issue. Hints my question, do you think this could be purposefully created by LSU.
Certainly the university knew that handling this publicly wouldn’t be a good luck.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:27 am to GeauxTime9
I asked this yesterday regarding why Wade just doesn’t tell Alleva what he wants to here. A firm denial. Never got an answer on why this would hurt Wade.
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I’m no lawyer and not trying to argue with anyone. I just don’t see how him telling Alleva “I didn’t do anything wrong” would hurt him legally. Nothing criminal, he wouldn’t be under oath or lying to the FBI, he’s just lying to his employer. If it is proven to be a false statement down the road, he’s screwed anyway. If nothing sticks, he rides with the statement and continues to coach.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 11:28 am
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:28 am to GeauxTime9
Now that I have calmed down over this situation, I'm using my Aspy senses...
I agree with this:
This is what is happening now. They would have fired Wade by this point. Our compliance office doesn't play.
They are trying to counter the ESPN/Yahoo narrative (those entities clearly want LSU to take the fall for the whole debacle), as well as show the University is on top of it.
At this point, my poor brain can only conclude Wade ended up helping the FBI and can't come clean with that.
This was Wade's first big CBB job. I'm sure he know how this worked when he took the gig at LSU, but this would have been his first deep dive into the corruption. His rookie handling of that (that we know of) is showing, but his insistence on getting his job back while not saying anything tell me he is holding cards with another entity and can't show them.
I agree with this:
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Like I said, I think LSU and Wade could possibly be using the media to paint the picture that they want.
This is what is happening now. They would have fired Wade by this point. Our compliance office doesn't play.
They are trying to counter the ESPN/Yahoo narrative (those entities clearly want LSU to take the fall for the whole debacle), as well as show the University is on top of it.
At this point, my poor brain can only conclude Wade ended up helping the FBI and can't come clean with that.
This was Wade's first big CBB job. I'm sure he know how this worked when he took the gig at LSU, but this would have been his first deep dive into the corruption. His rookie handling of that (that we know of) is showing, but his insistence on getting his job back while not saying anything tell me he is holding cards with another entity and can't show them.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:28 am to dreww221
Smart can claim cam Newton defense, he didn’t know he was being shopped around.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:34 am to BananaHammock
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It’s more probable that the administration is playing checkers while Will Wade is playing chess.
How anyone who has followed the LSU system the last decade could associate the LSU administration as being the ones playing chess is beyond me.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:38 am to GeauxTime9
No. LSU is being far too petty and unprofessional about the entire situation for that scenario to make sense.
They wouldn't intentionally make complete asses of themselves for no reason.
Plus, LSU admin has never done anything to demonstrate that they're intelligent enough to pull something like that off.
Dick Lipsey knows what's up.
They wouldn't intentionally make complete asses of themselves for no reason.
Plus, LSU admin has never done anything to demonstrate that they're intelligent enough to pull something like that off.
Dick Lipsey knows what's up.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:42 am to dreww221
Do you really think that that is all that would be asked of him? Do you honestly see that meeting playing out with Alleva asking WW "did you do anything wrong?"......WW - "no sir I did not." JA - "well that's wonderful you're reinstated effective immediately!!"
Not. A. Snowballs. Chance. In. Hell.
Alleva, LSU counsel, NCAA counsel, everyone in attendance would subject WW to a grueling interview consisting of questions that if he were to answer, regardless of guilt or innocence, would/could have much more devastating consequences once he takes the stand in the trial come April.
Not. A. Snowballs. Chance. In. Hell.
Alleva, LSU counsel, NCAA counsel, everyone in attendance would subject WW to a grueling interview consisting of questions that if he were to answer, regardless of guilt or innocence, would/could have much more devastating consequences once he takes the stand in the trial come April.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:42 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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This is what is happening now. They would have fired Wade by this point. Our compliance office doesn't play. They are trying to counter the ESPN/Yahoo narrative (those entities clearly want LSU to take the fall for the whole debacle), as well as show the University is on top of it. At this point, my poor brain can only conclude Wade ended up helping the FBI and can't come clean with that. This was Wade's first big CBB job. I'm sure he know how this worked when he took the gig at LSU, but this would have been his first deep dive into the corruption. His rookie handling of that (that we know of) is showing, but his insistence on getting his job back while not saying anything tell me he is holding cards with another entity and can't show them.
Exactly, i Honestly believe LSU and Wade have a plan going forward and they are using the media to prove LSU is on top of the situation. There is no way that LSU and Wade didn’t know everything against them after the October release.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:48 am to GeauxTime9
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Exactly, i Honestly believe LSU and Wade have a plan going forward and they are using the media to prove LSU is on top of the situation. There is no way that LSU and Wade didn’t know everything against them after the October release.
You're seriously underestimating their ability to to frick up a situation.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:50 am to TannehillTigah
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"Coach Will Wade has yet to deny any wrongdoing to us or publicly," Skinner said. "Absent that, the university is in a very difficult position with regard to compliance with NCAA requirements“
I’m just going off this quote from Skinner. Again I have no idea about the inner workings of this stuff, I just don’t see why Wade wouldn’t categorically deny any wrong doing publicly or in a statement to Alleva.
I completely understand why he wouldn’t sit for an interview where he would be grilled.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:57 am to dreww221
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Again I have no idea about the inner workings of this stuff, I just don’t see why Wade wouldn’t categorically deny any wrong doing publicly or in a statement to Alleva.
How do you know he hasn't? They've known about this since October.
His statement Thursday would suggest he had and can even be interpreted as a proclamation of innocence.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:00 pm to GeauxTime9
You're over thinking the situation. There was no forethought with this administration. It is what it is. A complete shite show. It's best to just accept it.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:30 pm to Philippines4LSU
I don’t know that he hasn’t, other than that statement from Skinner. That statement made it sound like a public denial would be enough for LSU to use to cover their arse to allow him to continue coaching.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:33 pm to GeauxTime9
Putting pieces together, whoever who’s been against Will Wade from the beginning in the administration/compliance/BOS took advantage of this to reschedule last Friday’s meeting and bring in NCAA and attorneys for the school.
They created a no-meeting, no-win, no-Wade scenario and make public through the media so he looks like the bad guy when they get rid of him. Which I believe has been the goal all along, this just gave them opportunity.
They created a no-meeting, no-win, no-Wade scenario and make public through the media so he looks like the bad guy when they get rid of him. Which I believe has been the goal all along, this just gave them opportunity.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:36 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
"At this point, my poor brain can only conclude Wade ended up helping the FBI and can't come clean with that."
I think this is EXACTLY what happened. The wire tap was set up so Wade could get Dawkins into a conversation about "offers", hoping to gather evidence of "offers" that Dawkins had made. If so, the FBI would not want this known before the trial and if so, Dawkins defense released the tape in an effort to find out whether this was what was done to their client. Knowing this would certainly affect their approach to how they put forth their defense.
In the meantime, Wade is being forced to stay quiet by the Feds about his role. The idiots at LSU made this an issue, not Will Wade.
I think this is EXACTLY what happened. The wire tap was set up so Wade could get Dawkins into a conversation about "offers", hoping to gather evidence of "offers" that Dawkins had made. If so, the FBI would not want this known before the trial and if so, Dawkins defense released the tape in an effort to find out whether this was what was done to their client. Knowing this would certainly affect their approach to how they put forth their defense.
In the meantime, Wade is being forced to stay quiet by the Feds about his role. The idiots at LSU made this an issue, not Will Wade.
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