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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”

Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:51 pm to
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But outside of that, if a damning tape is out there with him offering to buy players


What you think was discussed on the tape is irrelevant.

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Hypothetical: you work in the accounting dept of a company. A lot of money has gone missing, and there's some legitimate evidence that you embezzled it. You haven't been charged with any crime yet, but your boss calls you in to discuss.



That's a dumb hypothetical. What damages has LSU suffered because of these tapes? What is the "missing money" in this case?
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 1:54 pm
Posted by strose
Meshry
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Pretty sure you're not getting the wording right with this one.


What do you object to? Me calling Dawkins a middle man? Him saying he's ever worked with Dawkins?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:54 pm to
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What do you object to? Me calling Dawkins a middle man? Him saying he's ever worked with Dawkins?


you said Wade said he had no relationship with him. I don't think that's factual.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:54 pm to
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He has denied any involvement with the middleman.



This was a Will Wade lie before he knew he was caught on tape again
Posted by strose
Meshry
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:55 pm to
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What you think was discussed on the tape is irrelevant.


What anyone besides the LSU Admins and the NCAA investigative body and, for now, the FBI think about what was discussed on the tape is irrelevant. Each of those bodies mentioned has a separate yet still relevant interest in hearing what Will Wade has to say about the shite we've all heard him say on these calls.

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That's a dumb hypothetical. What damages has LSU suffered because of these tapes? What is the missing money?


We haven't suffered anything yet. We could suffer a lot. Hence the relevance to the University and the NCAA.
Posted by strose
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:57 pm to
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you said Wade said he had no relationship with him. I don't think that's factual.


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“It was a little bit surprising,” Wade said about the testimony at SEC media day. “I’m not really gonna react to what the defense attorney said. I will say I’m very proud of everything I’ve done as LSU’s head coach. … I or we have never, ever done business of any kind with Christian Dawkins. That’s what I’ll say about that.”


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“So you said to me in Atlanta there was a 2019 kid I wanted to recruit, they can get him to LSU, you would have funded,” Dawkins told Wade on the call — according to Donnelly’s transcript. “Would you want Balsa?” “Oh, the big kid?” Wade asked. “Yeah,” Dawkins said. “OK. But there’s other [expletive] involved in it,” Wade replied. “I have got to shut my door. … Here’s my thing: I can get you what you need, but it’s got to work.”



That's a bad fricking look, man.


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This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:57 pm to
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“It was a little bit surprising,” Wade said about the testimony at SEC media day. “I’m not really gonna react to what the defense attorney said. I will say I’m very proud of everything I’ve done as LSU’s head coach. … I or we have never, ever done business of any kind with Christian Dawkins. That’s what I’ll say about that.”


So you're now agreeing with me that he didn't say no relationship?
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:59 pm to
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What a bull shite response. Makes everything look worse.

It’s like LSU is begging to be found guilty.

Everyone in basketball has to talk to handlers. The kids have the power. LSU admin acting like little bitches.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:59 pm to
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Why does he need to say he didn't do anything wrong? Who has filed any charges of wrongdoing against him?

It's pretty normal for a boss to call in a direct report to ask for his side of a story when an accusation comes out.

Especially one that can topple the boss, that boss's boss and an entire program.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:01 pm to
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The NCAA has zero grounds to punish us for waiting until facts come out.

The NCAA has zero grounds to punish us if it's proven our coach was paying players?
Posted by strose
Meshry
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:01 pm to
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So you're now agreeing with me that he didn't say no relationship?


No. I'm objecting to your issue with semantics.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:01 pm to
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The NCAA has zero grounds to punish us for waiting until facts come out.

The NCAA has zero grounds to punish us if it's proven our coach was paying players?


This is shite comprehension, even for you.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111726 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:01 pm to
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Nothing the NCAA has done in the past shows this as true. Nothing

So teams never self impose sanctions by skipping bowl games/posteason tournies to get a lighter deal? That doesn't happen?
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 2:02 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:02 pm to
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No. I'm objecting to your issue with semantics.



Sorry that different words have different meanings.
Posted by strose
Meshry
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:04 pm to
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Sorry that different words have different meanings.


Sorry you'd rather quibble about phrasing instead of having a conversation.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:04 pm to
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It's pretty normal for a boss to call in a direct report to ask for his side of a story when an accusation comes out.



What's the accusation? And who's making it? The public?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:05 pm to
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Sorry you'd rather quibble about phrasing instead of having a conversation.



Get fricked You just want to pick up your ball and go home when you realized you're wrong.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7857 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:05 pm to
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This was a Will Wade lie before he knew he was caught on tape again


The quote I have seen from Will Wade is he "denied doing business of any kind" with Dawkins.

What business did he do with Dawkins that has come out?

He had conversations from what I have seen, but they did not engage in business.(which I take as a transaction involving money or something of value)
Posted by strose
Meshry
Member since Apr 2011
423 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:05 pm to
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Him saying he's ever worked with Dawkins?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
85150 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 2:06 pm to
You changed the words again.
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