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House Remodel...I'm new to this and was hoping for any advice

Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:03 am
Posted by Gillbeaux87
Member since Jul 2017
41 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:03 am
The wife and I bought her grandparents house they built in the late 60's, and we are finally getting to the point of interior demo to remodel. I'm new to this and was hoping for any advice or contractor recs I can get a hold of, it would be much appreciated.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:37 am to
Before you start tearing down walls, check if there is anything behind the sheet rock and plan accordingly, homes that age were built to last, chances are good there are 1X6 center match boards behind sheet rock, stronger house but PITA extra work to remove / remodel wall...
Posted by way_south
Member since Jul 2017
931 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:40 am to
I hope you are not going to live in it while you renovate it. If so, burn it down with you inside. I did it once and it was a mess, no escape from dust, humidity, heat, cold, the neighbor's cat...
Posted by Gillbeaux87
Member since Jul 2017
41 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:45 am to
Thanks. There is mostly wood paneling through out. I plan on getting the dumpster delivered this week and start some demo this weekend.
Posted by Gillbeaux87
Member since Jul 2017
41 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:47 am to
...and no we aren't going to live in it while we renovate. Seems like a giant PITA, esp with a little one who is already nosy and about to start crawling.
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:49 am to
chances of center match are higher with paneling, push on the wall between studs, if it flexes then no center match, no flex and solid means you have support center match behind paneling...
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17530 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:14 am to
My wife and I bought her exes mother in law house that was built back in the early 40's. It was, to my surprise entirely sheet rock, which had not aged well. About 1000 square feet, ripped all the rock out, wiring, opened up a two closets and added them to the bathroom. Opened up to another two closets and made it one big one. Had an old attic fan, took it out and put a attic ladder and laid some plywood to make for some room for x-mas decorations and other bull shite. It had mostly hardwood floor and redid it, my cousin does that kind of work. Repainted the outside, inside and replaced all lighting obviously and electrical outlets. Had central heat but no air, put a new a/c in. All new appliances, washer/dryer and picked up some kitchen cabinets on the cheap. New front doors and all new windows. Bought the house for 20 grand, put 40 in it and the house is now worth over a hundred grand. Did all the demo myself along with the floors. Ran all the wiring, outlets and painted the rooms. Contracted the sheet rock, installation of the cabinets, the remodeling of the closets (carpenters), the actual hook up of the electrical box (electrician) and the a/c. Took about 3 months. Working on doing the same to a garage on the property and making it into an apartment. Its about 500 sq. ft.
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:17 am to
Where do you live..
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18841 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 9:35 am to
Buy a few lead paint checking kits and do some testing just to be sure before you start tearing stuff down. Get plenty of good N95 dust masks too, do not want to give yourself a sinus infection. Contractors are all over the place as far as cost and quality of work, you'll really have to ask around of those in you area that have had work done similar to what you are planning. I'm doing a heavy remodel of my own house right now and it's a lot more money and time than you imagine if you want things done right.
Posted by Gillbeaux87
Member since Jul 2017
41 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 11:01 am to
House is in Walker. Trying to decide best way to get the popcorn ceiling tested for asbestos. Removal seems like a pretty simple process if I don't have to worry about it
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19307 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Removal seems like a pretty simple process if I don't have to worry about it


Removal is real easy, but messy as hell but I'm betting it's more than the three steps method of check for asbestos, wet it down, scrape it off.

I've removed several such ceilings and the main reason many contractors went with that type finish was because it hides a lot of crap. Most of the time tape joints are not nearly as nicely finished as you'd find in a smooth, or even orange peel textured ceiling. So, expect to have to do a fair amount of skimming and floating to make the end result look good.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
25287 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 12:46 pm to
Popcorn ceilings can be a breeze. I got sheet plastic on a roll, laid it out and then taped it up the walls about a foot. Then spray/mist the ceiling with water (twice), I can back with a scraper. Once it's all done, just roll up the plastic.
Posted by Gillbeaux87
Member since Jul 2017
41 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 1:00 pm to
Ill be taking out the carpets too so I was thinking I could just let it fall and roll it up with that. Guy at work seems to think I should leave the wood paneling up and sheet rock over the paneling. Anyone ever do it this way?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19307 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Guy at work seems to think I should leave the wood paneling up and sheet rock over the paneling. Anyone ever do it this way?


You could do it that way and buy electrical box extenders to get your outlets and light switches even with the outside edge of the sheetrock.

I've put paneling for wainscoting over sheetrock and capped it off with some chair rail molding to finish the top edge.

My only issue with covering the paneling is I'd want to see what condition the wall under the paneling is in, as in any rot, termite damage, etc.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18841 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Ill be taking out the carpets too so I was thinking I could just let it fall and roll it up with that. Guy at work seems to think I should leave the wood paneling up and sheet rock over the paneling. Anyone ever do it this way?



I pulled the carpets out of my house to refinish the solid oak floors under them. Pull the carpets out first because that is a much tougher job than you think, shite is heavy, but leave the foam cushion down to catch the popcorn stuff. I don't know about sheet rock over wood paneling, my house had the same and I removed the wood paneling first. I was told the paneling, if it wasn't perfect and well attached, would cause cracks and bows in the sheet rock later on. Took all of 2 hours to remove a 15x20 room of the stuff including crown and base.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31806 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:07 pm to
Plan on it costing roughly double whatever initial estimate you get. Try and get personal recommendations on contractors, in my experience a high percentage are either crooked or incompetent or both. The ones that are worth a crap are usually really backed up. As said above, living in it while work is underway is Hell.
Posted by lildaddy86
Hammond
Member since May 2016
254 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 11:15 pm to
Just remodeled a house built in mid 80s. Stripped it down to the frame. The only contractor I hired was for sheetrock and insulation. Was already planning on removing the walls inside to repair termite damage. The house had popcorn ceilings, the quote to remove popcorn vs remove and replace with new drywall was more expensive. That led to removing all sheetrock and replacing with new. Just a thought
Posted by #1TigerFan
Member since Apr 2005
1684 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 3:18 am to
I followed the recommendation from my contractor to remove the paneling and found bad wiring. I'm glad I listened to him.
Posted by Gillbeaux87
Member since Jul 2017
41 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 6:29 am to
yea, im gunna end up stripping it down to the studs to see what ive got going on behind it.

Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49029 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Removal is real easy, but messy as hell but I'm betting it's more than the three steps method of check for asbestos, wet it down, scrape it off.

I've removed several such ceilings and the main reason many contractors went with that type finish was because it hides a lot of crap. Most of the time tape joints are not nearly as nicely finished as you'd find in a smooth, or even orange peel textured ceiling. So, expect to have to do a fair amount of skimming and floating to make the end result look good.


This is all true. I did the same thing in my house and the key is to spray with a garden sprayer first. Wet it real good while the floors are covered. Let is sit for 10 minutes, then go at it with a paint scraper or putty knife. It should come off real easy and not create any dust (which is important in case there's asbestos in it).

After the popcorn is removed, be prepared to go back and touch up some areas with putty before texturing because the popcorn was 100% used to cover up imperfections in the ceiling after not being floated correctly. If it's an older house, you'll likely see divots everywhere the nail or screw was inserted to anchor the sheetrock to the ceiling joists. This is caused by the drywall sagging over time. It's not hard work, it's just very time consuming.
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