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Faithful Anglicans left in droves and consolidated multiple dioceses and parishes as an alternative to the dying radical, some would even call apostate and heretical, Episcopal Church.

I’m 37 and have been an Episcopalian all my life. Having kids and becoming aware of the world we live in has me finally questioning shite. I used to think the “we welcome all” attitude of the Church was a good thing. Now I’m not so sure.

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Posted by Lima Whiskey

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Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:23 am to tilco

The churches endless embrace of the other destroyed its identity. It forgot what it stood for in an effort to appease everyone.

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Posted by FooManChoo

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Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:30 am to tilco

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I’m 37 and have been an Episcopalian all my life. Having kids and becoming aware of the world we live in has me finally questioning shite. I used to think the “we welcome all” attitude of the Church was a good thing. Now I’m not so sure.

Welcoming everyone to attend church is one thing. Refusing to condemn sin for what it is is another.

Matthew 18 provides a template for how the Church is supposed to deal with sin, which implies that it needs to be dealt with, not accepted as permissible. One of the traditional marks of a true church is that it administers discipline as needed with the intent to save the soul of the sinner. A church that refuses to punish sin is not a true church.

That being said, a person who is confronted with their sin, acknowledges that they have sinned and repents of it, should be welcomed back into the body of believers. The issue here is that sin isn't dealt with and the sinners are not convicted of their sin which may lead to their damnation. Churches that refuse to punish sin are like parents who refuse to punish disobedience in their children: their "kindness" is actually harmful long-term to the one who needs the discipline.

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Posted by Mr. Misanthrope

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Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:05 pm to tilco

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I’m 37 and have been an Episcopalian all my life. Having kids and becoming aware of the world we live in has me finally questioning shite. I used to think the “we welcome all” attitude of the Church was a good thing. Now I’m not so sure.

Stayed in as long as as I could.

Few believed it at the time but adopting the 1979 Common Prayer Book "on an experimental basis" and "purely voluntary basis" was merely subterfuge to do away with the older Prayer Books which were theologically conservative, traditional, and "common" in the sense that they were descendants of the original Prayer Book put together be Bishop Cranmer.

Cranmer' work itself was descended from far older Christian liturgies thereby maintaining continuity with the ancient Church's liturgy and theology and was essentially 70 % directly from Scripture.

The Parishes were basically forced to abandon a liturgy they had used for generations in daily and weekly worship, in marriage rites, in baptisms, in confirmations, and for the burial of our dead and forced adopt the unwanted and unwarranted changes of the 1979 aberration.

Many argued at the time that the changes made in 1979 were inimical to orthodox belief and worship and would result in precisely what we've seen happen in the American Episcopal denomination.

Couple that with the weeding out of conservative, traditional, and orthodox priests and bishops through heavy handed control of the denomination's seminaries and we have the disaster you've been experiencing.

I don't know where you are, but if you're reasonably close to Baton Rouge there's a solid Anglican Church that meets at a chapel on Chimes Street near the LSU campus.

If you're elsewhere I can get you some links to solid Churches for you and your family.

Prayers and best wishes.