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OK Libs, please have the stones to go on record:

Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:28 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:28 am
After seeing the NPC response of "illegal-immigrants commit crimes at a lesser rate than American citizens" for the millionth time, I want you all to riddle me this:

Let's say the above statement is true (it is not), does that mean the EXTRA rapes, assaults and murders being committed by people WHO AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE is OK with you if it means these people get to invade and stay?

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13317 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:31 am to
If the people being murdered are native born whites, of course liberals are okay with it.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:31 am to
It's true.

It means they aren't some existential threat to us.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Let's say the above statement is true (it is not), does that mean the EXTRA rapes, assaults and murders being committed by people WHO AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE is OK with you if it means these people get to invade and stay?



You thought this lame shite deserved its own thread?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:40 am to
I don't think illegal immigration is without problems. I just think that conservatives use scare tactics to make things appear substantially worse than they are. I live in a big city with tons of illegals. Anecdotally, they aren't the ones that are in the news for most of the crime.

I do support stronger labor practices to prevent tax-free labor. I do think it depresses wages for legal citizens.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Let's say the above statement is true (it is not)
its 100 percent true.

quote:

...does that mean the EXTRA rapes, assaults and murders being committed by people WHO AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE is OK with you if it means these people get to invade and stay?
wow. this is what you came up with, is it?

its astounding that I even have to say this, but some of you are so far gone that you cant even remember where your lies began or ended, so, no. rape and murder are bad. no one is for that. theres no one on the other side of this issue.

and heres the important part that your idiotic premise skipped right over: NO ONE IS FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

No one is advocating that, no one wants it to be the norm, no one thinks its ok. There are people in the US illegally unfortunately, and we need to deal with that. its far from ideal but most things are. its very definitely a problem we need to solve.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57588 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:42 am to
They're committing a crime simply by being in this country illegally, so 100% of illegal aliens commit crimes.
Posted by JohnnyT
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2005
1807 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:44 am to
This talking point has been thoroughly debunked. A nerdy statistics guy I heard on Blunt Force Truth laid out the details and sources used. I'll have to do some digging to link to it - but that claim is patently false.

Illegal immigrant proponents cook the numbers by both reducing the numerator and including legal immigrants in the denominator. What the data actually shows is that illegal immigrants do indeed engage in more criminal behavior. Legal immigrants, however, are among the most law-abiding with their data showing showing them to be among the best behaved of those in the US.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 7:48 am
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3022 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:50 am to
Point out any crime statistics and libs are quick to say it is all due to socioeconomic factors. How curious it is that illegals are supposedly the most law abiding considering their socioeconomic class is below that of any American citizen. Their contradicting and muddled logic can’t stand up against the slightest scrutiny.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:57 am to
quote:

illegal-immigrants commit crimes at a lesser rate than American citizens


So who do we build a wall around then?
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:59 am to
This reminds me of NPR defending illegal immigration by saying " uneducated immigrants are a net drain on the government, BUT uneducated american citizens are also a similar burden". So obviously, if one is not good but the other is bad, then the former is OK.
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3022 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:59 am to
Aren’t these 100% true fact checked stats on illegal alien crimes based on a single town and extropolated nationwide?
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26871 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:06 am to
How the hell does anyone know the accurate rate at which crime is committed by a group no one is allowed to count?

Illegal, undocumented, asylum seekers, whatever the label getting into the country around the immigration policy is a crime thereby they are all (100% of whatever number) criminals. That rate beats the worst of the worst citizens.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43152 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:21 am to
quote:

"illegal-immigrants commit crimes at a lesser rate than American citizens" for the millionth time


I have been relating to this as the "they are only committing the crimes that Americans just refuse to commit" line for a long time now.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13599 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:30 am to
First of all, screw that. What part of ILLEGAL do they not understand?? They are already committing what SHOULD BE considered a serious crime by being in our country ILLEGALLY.


I'm tired of the bullshite. If you have no border or legal immigration policy WITH TEETH, you have no country. So they can shove it.



Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:49 am to
There definitely needs to be a check on illegal immigration. A wall bearing trumps name to appease his ego? Is that the best way to solve the problem? That is my issue. A wall may be part of the answer; but, truthfully, I simply cannot believe anything trump says. He has lied over and over and over and, frankly, no one should believe him So, he has no credibility and hence if he says we need HIS wall it should not be believed.
Posted by LeauxCountryTigah
Her Nether Regions
Member since Jan 2008
453 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:09 am to
Just go ahead and admit you dont care for people with darker skin than you and move on. What you are in essence saying is that if one darker skinned person did something bad, then I will impose my belief that those tendencies apply to all darker skinned people. It is called prejudice sir.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37142 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:40 pm to
Progs love to use the ‘if it saves one life!’ reason for gun control but don’t seem to apply it to other issues
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