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Tomorrow is a huge day. SCOTUS will meet on the Census question

Posted on 2/14/19 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53503 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 10:39 pm
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The Supreme Court meets behind closed doors Friday to weigh a question that could shape the political power of California for the decade ahead.

At issue is the Trump administration’s plan to ask all households for the first time since 1950 whether occupants are U.S. citizens.

Officials in California, New York and 17 other Democratic-leaning states say neither justification makes sense. They argue that adding the citizenship question is likely to yield incomplete and inaccurate data because millions of immigrant families will refuse to respond, leading to a severe undercount in areas like Southern California and South Texas. And they said Justice Department lawyers have enforced the Voting Rights Act for more than 50 years without needing block-by-block data on eligible voters. Instead, they have relied on data from the American Community Survey, which annually asks detailed questions, including on race, ethnicity and citizenship, of a small statistical sample of the public.

On Friday, lawyers for California and the Justice Department will present their final arguments in San Francisco in the state’s suit, California vs. Ross, that seeks to block the change. At the same time, the Supreme Court justices will meet privately to weigh the administration’s request to decide the issue on a fast track in the case from New York.

Solicitor Gen. Noel Francisco said the high court must act now because the Census Bureau needs to begin printing forms by summer.



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Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101695 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 10:41 pm to
I’m anxious to see how Ginsburg comes down on this. I’m sure she’s been diligently poring over the briefs the past few days.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14448 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 10:45 pm to
If the Census determines the representation of each state, why would foreigners be included? If a state is over represented because of foreigners, doesn't it diminish the voice of ACTUAL Americans in their own representative government?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164354 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 11:02 pm to
This is huge. It could chop California's electoral votes at the knees and distribute them to GOP states.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11637 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 11:14 pm to
She will be “dead” set against it.
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 11:15 pm
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1189 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:05 am to
In a serious country- fill in the blank.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:08 am to
The righteous horse shite accompanying the declaration of a "sanctuary" city is just cover for the money grab of padding your population stats to get more federal money and House seats.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90911 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:46 am to
Roberts will cuck out again. Watch
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79378 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:04 am to
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They argue that adding the citizenship question is likely to yield incomplete and inaccurate data because millions of immigrant families will refuse to respond


So they’ll break the law twice then is what the Dems are saying?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:04 am to
Can someone please explain to me how a question on the census is in any way "huge"?

I mean, what's to stop people from just checking "yes" to citizenship - or just leaving it blank?

If they ask the question, a lot of illegals won't fill out the form. That fact is, a lot of illegals already don't fill out the form. They get counted anyway - at least by estimates.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99254 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:38 am to
So. They admit the question was on the American Community Survey (at least, until it as removed under Obama).

How is the question constitutional for the ACS, but not for the Census as a whole?

Nice logical pretzel you have there...
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 8:39 am
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