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re: Episode IX is the lame duck in Disney's Star Wars saga (Forbes)
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:28 pm to PEPE
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:28 pm to PEPE
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Star wars has always been the original trilogy and will always be the original trilogy.
It's the foundation of everything. To think they can replace it for a new generation is insanity.
I'm okay with moving on from it...but what we've seen up to this point, is them completely running OVER the OT
Literally everything that was gained over the course of the OT in terms of character development and narrative was thrown into the garbage.
Topple the empire?- Nope, First Order is just new empire with a different symbol.
Luke goes from farm boy to legendary jedi?-Now hes just a cynical, crotchety old hermit who drinks blue milk and calls lightsabers "laser swords" .
Balance of the force?-Nah, that didnt happen, Rey will balance the force.
The ancient jedi texts to restore the jedi order?- Nah, those are just silly old books, in fact, "force ghost" Yoda is going to set them on fire via lightning.
They were supposed to CONTINUE the story, continue a new path, not rehash the original and write over it.
Rey should have been a Jedi student of Luke. Instead they just turned her into a female Anakin Skywalker without the internal struggle and without any external adversity either.
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
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The ancient jedi texts to restore the jedi order?- Nah, those are just silly old books, in fact, "force ghost" Yoda is going to set them on fire via lightning.
To be fair, Rey has those text.
But the rest is spot on. And people thought midichlorians were bad.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:42 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Rey should have been a Jedi student of Luke. Instead they just turned her into a female Anakin Skywalker without the internal struggle and without any external adversity either.
This. That's just bad story-telling. Ray was such an incredible character in TFA. She came to us seemingly fully formed but with so many unanswered questions about her. Rather than address those questions, TLJ just shite on the audience for asking them and gave answers that were just the worst. They actually made Ray LESS interesting by making her less relatable.
The Last Jedi was set up with so many opportunities to become an awesome movie, possibly the best movie at all, but instead chose to make the worst possible decision at each juncture in the name of "subverting expectations". "Subverting expectations" only makes sense if doing so still falls within the logic of the story and the characters that inhabit it. If it doesn't, then it feels forced, contrived, unoriginal, and like bad story-telling.
For example: Luke's arc didn't make sense. He left a map to find him in TFA, yet in TLJ he didn't want to be found and just wanted to die there? That doesn't make any sense. In ROTJ, Luke refuses to fight Vader because he senses even the slightest bit of good in him, yet, when he senses the slightest evil in Ben, he decides to murder his nephew in his sleep? That doesn't make any f&%king sense. There are so many better reasons for Ben to turn on Luke, and that's literally the worst possible reason.
Don't even get me started on all of the other nonsensical decisions that characters made along the way. The whole "mad-cap comedy of errors" angle definitely feels correct.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:47 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Luke goes from farm boy to legendary jedi?-Now hes just a cynical, crotchety old hermit who drinks blue milk and calls lightsabers "laser swords" .
This.
I still say to those few who actually like how they handled Luke in TLJ. Just picture if Episode VII had cut to credits with Luke tossing the light saber over his shoulder and walking off. In fact, I would love to see someone edit that as the end of Episode VII. There almost would have been riots in the theater.
It honestly looked to me like they JJ was setting up Rey to be the next Luke in Episode VII. I could get Luke retreating for a time to gather his thoughts and trying to focus on the new threat of Snoke and his fallen nephew. Rey shows up and it gives him renewed hope that the Jedi can indeed rebuild. Instead, they make Luke extremely bitter and fully detached from the Force. And, on top of that, they seriously over-power Rey. Her conflict/adversity is hardly there at all in Episode VIII. She's not interesting at this point.
And, don't get me started on the flying-in-space Leia, the horrible character of Rose and the entire Canto Bight portion of the movie, and the horrible Holdo character.
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