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re: PT conservatives, are you ok with Trump granting DACA people some form of legal status.

Posted on 1/19/19 at 11:01 am to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 11:01 am to
I think the Prog/Dim leftists are going to see conservatives are not cruel but we also are not fools.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 11:18 am to
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I think the Prog/Dim leftists are going to see conservatives are not cruel but we also are not fools.
I hope you wind up being correct, because we ALWAYS seem to come out looking like fools & caving

most Americans favor some kind of plan that shows leniency and compassion to the "dremers"

and Trump cannot afford to cut a deal with zero wall funding

the solution looks like a no-brainer; except that top Dems in power and their sycophants in the media are hell bent on making sure that Trump does not get a PR win (which is laughable, since their own hysteria keeps delivering win after win to Trump anyway - see yesterday as "Exhibit A")

we keep hear two questions that, on the surface, look troubling for Trump

1) Why did Trump not accept the deal that had funding for the wall last year? Rush and Fox & friends are driving policy

this one is easy, as that talking point is a load of crap

that deal cemented "chain migration" as policy & that is a no-go for Trump. It also gave the Dems ALL of their concessions on the front end, yet spread border security over 10 years - we have seen that movie before & the ending never gets any better...

2) Why is Trump shutting the government down NOW? Why did he not get this done when Republicans controlled both houses?

This one is also easy to answer, and it is not necessarily flattering for our side (at least in part). For one, we could not get the 8-10 Dem votes we needed from Senate Dems & McConnell was not willing to employ the "nuclear option" over regular budget issues (which seems silly, as the Dems will certainly not return that favor once they regain power). Secondly, the optics of a hard line stance by Trump before now would have been brutal when the Repubs were in power - had he employed the shutdown tactic before, we would have actually seen the "blue wave" that leftists were fantasizing about. Bottom line? Trump now has a "foil" so he has more freedom to draw a hard line
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