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Which side presented the best argument, which side pandered to their base?

Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:09 pm
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:09 pm
One side presented a non emotional case laden with facts and statistics.


One side presented an emotional injected presentation lacking in facts and relying on personal attacks campaign rhetoric.


Which side laid out a compelling case and which side pandered to their base?
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:11 pm to
Trump connected directly with the American people

Chuck and Nancy looked and sounded crazy with embarrassing talking points

FACT
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:12 pm to
The only part I could complain about with Trump is his attempt to link the wall funding to Mexico.

IMO, he should simply abandon that strategy and just stick to why the wall is important for this country. Mexico was never going to pay for it directly, and the indirect connection is tenuous at best.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:13 pm to
Trump had a good speech but wasn’t pandering to his voters like the democrats.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5471 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:13 pm to
Trump should just get Mexico to pay for the wall and be done with...
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:13 pm to
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link the wall funding to Mexico



But, he's right.
Posted by Giant Leaf
On Leaf
Member since Nov 2015
4229 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:15 pm to
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Trump should just get Mexico to pay for the wall and be done with...



They will

Far more than 5 billion dollars in remittances will stop flowing to Mexico

Why do you morons think Mexico doesnt want the wall? Because they have zero stake in it?
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:18 pm to
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But, he's right.


He's not, and you know that.

Why don't you tell me how Mexico is paying for the Wall via the trade deal?
Posted by nimbus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:21 pm to
Just the ghoulish and somewhat scary physical appearance of Pelosi and Schumer alone was enough of a strike against them.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:37 pm to
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Why don't you tell me how Mexico is paying for the Wall via the trade deal?


Bueller? Bueller?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52352 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:42 pm to
THis has been talked about ad nauseum on here baw. I'm not getting into it again.

USMCA and all of the other jobs that have been, are being, and will be saved from going to Mexico. The remittances that will be prevented from being sent to Mexico from those that won't be able to get in. Yada, Yada, Yada.


You goobs that expected Mexico to hand Trump a check are insanely naive. No one with a working brain thought that was going to happen.
Posted by geauxtigersgirl
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:46 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 4:21 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

USMCA and all of the other jobs that have been, are being, and will be saved from going to Mexico. The remittances that will be prevented from being sent to Mexico from those that won't be able to get in. Yada, Yada, Yada.


So US workers will be more prosperous, thereby paying more taxes, and you're trying to argue that's Mexico paying for it?

This absurdity is why the Mexico paying for it bit needs to just go away. Trump needs to let it go. The wall is worthwhile regardless of who's paying for it. Talking about who's paying for it is a dumb place to continuously get hung up, yet Trump continues to trot it out.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30586 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Mueller. Mueller.

FIFY. Hopefully this time next year Trump is outta there.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5471 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:03 pm to
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They will


They won’t... we might ... but Mexico definitely won’t
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88760 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:06 pm to
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FIFY. Hopefully this time next year Trump is outta there.




right. you want back your over tax, over regulate, shite economy open borders right?
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5471 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

You goobs that expected Mexico to hand Trump a check are insanely naive. No one with a working brain thought that was going to happen.


Trump thought this...
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 10:11 pm
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