I honestly believe that you can't stand either one and while you may not want them to outright fail you damn sure aren't going to give them the same consideration that you would any other coaches that the administration would've hired. You're not willing to give coach O the benefit of the doubt in any situation. You're ready to crucify Steve although he's been hamstrung by personnel issues all year. You give Aranda the benefit of the doubt although he has a huge jumpstart on Steve. Aranda has been here several years. Steve took over a mess.

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Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo

Louisiana

Member since Aug 2006

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Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:36 pm to bencoleman

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I honestly believe that you can't stand either one and while you may not want them to outright fail you damn sure aren't going to give them the same consideration that you would any other coaches that the administration would've hired

Perhaps you have just chosen to ignore the credit I have given, when it was due.

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You're not willing to give coach O the benefit of the doubt in any situation. You're ready to crucify Steve although he's been hamstrung by personnel issues all year. You give Aranda the benefit of the doubt although he has a huge jumpstart on Steve

Let's compare.

Aranda is a proven DC. He is a highly saught after coach year every single year. He has shown the ability to have a good defense at every stop.

O and Ensminger were not saught after by ANYBODY. They have both failed previously at the positions they are in now.

Can't you comprehend why one gets the benefit of the doubt, over the other two? It's common sense.

To add to that, Aranda's defensive numbers compared to Ensminger, proves the defense was solid and the offense sucked. The offense struggled against teams like Southeastern. They didn't just look bad against good defenses, they looked bad all the time (except for Georgia).

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Posted by SammyTiger

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Feb 2009

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Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:37 pm to bencoleman

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You give Aranda the benefit of the doubt although he has a huge jumpstart on Steve. Aranda has been here several years. Steve took over a mess.

Aranda took over a Defense with worse line depth and talent, and has had a top end defense for years. 2017 our DL was Sophmore Lawrence, Gilmore and Lacouture. We lost Beckwith, Riley, Arden Key was a shell, we lost Tre White and Jamal Adams. And we still finished top 15 in scoring and total defense.

Ensminger may not have the beat piecws but he’s also done nothing to elevate those pieces.

The benefit of the doubt we Give Aranda is that this is an off year that really isn’t terrible.

You’re asking people to just assume that this terrible offense is all on the players, and probably that’s not true.

Downvote me if you like, but we are never going to have 5 stars at every position on offense, no one does. Nothing about E makes me think he is a top notch OC, and I think We could have gotten at least these shitty results with Any shitty OC.

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Posted by Lonnie4LSU

Baton Rouge

Member since Aug 2008

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Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:06 pm to bencoleman

“The same consideration”

What consideration does a tight end coach turned offensive coordinator for first time in 20 years who produces a total offense ranked 10th in the SEC merit ??

No one hates Steve. No one wants Steve to fail. Lots of people are concerned about the fact that almost 3 years after a coaching change, we are still struggling to produce an effective, consistent O. That brings about frustration and that frustration is going to be directed both at Coach E and Coach O.

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