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re: lets settle the debate. is die hard a Christmas movie?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:12 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:12 am to CocomoLSU
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You can't take out a main part of the plot and try to replace it with something else and then claim that makes it not a Christmas movie. That's like saying if you change the time of NL's Christmas Vacation to 4th of July, it is no longer a Christmas movie....well no shite. That's the whole point.
If you take Christmas out of NL, it changes everything about the movie. You need to have different scenes entirely because the vast majority of the film is Christmas traditions. If you change die hard it won’t effect the film that much. You are over playing this lame arse debate from 10 years ago.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:15 am
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:14 am to Dam Guide
So according to you It's A Wonderful Life is not a Christmas movie. 
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:26 am to Dam Guide
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If you change die hard it won’t effect the film that much.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:30 am to Dam Guide
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If you take Christmas out of NL, it changes everything about the movie. You need to have different scenes entirely because the vast majority of the film is Christmas traditions. If you change die hard it won’t effect the film that much. You are over playing this lame arse debate from 10 years ago.
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:47 pm to Dam Guide
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If you take Christmas out of NL, it changes everything about the movie. You need to have different scenes entirely because the vast majority of the film is Christmas traditions. If you change die hard it won’t effect the film that much. You are over playing this lame arse debate from 10 years ago.
The main thrust of the conflict in the film, outside of the family, has to do with an End of Year Bonus. Christmas only provides the trappings of the story about a suburban father stretched between providing for his family and working for the man.
This materializes in a few locations:
- Contrasted against his brother Randy's situation
- Spurs his mid life crises via Mary and the dream about Mary
- The entire pool arc
- His disassociation with his family
- His failure at everything from lights to Turkey
- The Kidnapping (which yes, is a Christmas gift, but knowing Randy he would have kidnapped someone outside of Christmas)
Therefore, via your definition, it is not a Christmas film. It's a Mid-Life Crises Film.
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