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re: California officially becomes first in nation mandating solar power for new homes
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:57 pm to Shiftyplus1
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:57 pm to Shiftyplus1
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You better make 500,000 grand a year, or you ain't building shite in CA
this was probably already the case
but $10,000 worth of solar panels is only $350 a year on a 30 year mortgage. hardly a deal breaker
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
You’d think California would be more interested in changing building codes so as to switch to fire retardant construction materials, etc. instead of adding to hazardous waste after it all burns down again.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:01 pm to Sho Nuff
Now that I think about it I'm pretty sure I had to call maintenance for that and they would only adjust it so much (military housing).
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
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What's the OTs opinion on this?
great, sooner or later it is the future although solar is still shite right now.
Let the folks in Cali spend the R&D money and when they become efficient enough I will buy them while they will antiquated inefficient cells on their roof.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:10 pm to dbbuilder79
Whoever down voted your post is a moron. California already takes the vast majority of hoover damn power. Vegas pretty much gets super cheap electricity, at least when I lived there
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:48 pm to northshorebamaman
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Now that I think about it I'm pretty sure I had to call maintenance for that and they would only adjust it so much (military housing).
Yeah there's a gray box and you just manually set the gauges. The military didn't tell you about it
Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:56 am to TheCaterpillar
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What is the energy footprint on those factories that produce solar panels and cells? And what happens to the old, broken solar panels and cells?
Depending on what you want to classify as energy input required to produce, and dispose of the cells, you can end up with a net negative energy gain for solar cell pretty fast. For example would the energy required to build the manufacturing facility be considered energy used to manufacture the cells, what about fuel used for workers to commute to the plant, etc?
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:36 am to upgrayedd
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Oh, I agree. That's why I always laugh when they talk about separating from the US. They wouldn't last a week without major utilities coming in from out of state
Why TX is the only state that can seriously "threat" to secede. Not saying it will or want to get into the politics of it, but TX does have it's own grid. Which is huge "if" it were to secede.
The whole california into 5 different states push sounds good, but will be horrible for the Right, with things like adding 8 more california senators.
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:43 am to Sho Nuff
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Sho Nuff
You seem well versed in this subject. Has there been any cases where the local utility had to pay the homeowner for power used in any type of large influx event (such as concerts, Superbowl, etc) or is the meter solution a zero-sum type of deal where the homeowner is only charged for any time the housing unit consumes more power than made?
Posted on 12/7/18 at 9:49 am to sgallo3
California is already the land of haves and have nots.
Wait until the poor people gain control of the political arm
Wait until the poor people gain control of the political arm
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:38 pm to Sho Nuff
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They don’t need batteries as they have net metering
I know this would be way down the road, once everyone has solar, who is using all of the excess electricity that’s being fed back to the grid? I would assume that net metering would go away at some point?
Posted on 12/7/18 at 7:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
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California officially became the first state in the nation on Wednesday, Dec. 5 to require homes built in 2020 and later be solar powered.
but dont have to be a citizen to vote...
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:40 pm to 50_Tiger
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You seem well versed in this subject. Has there been any cases where the local utility had to pay the homeowner for power used in any type of large influx event (such as concerts, Superbowl, etc) or is the meter solution a zero-sum type of deal where the homeowner is only charged for any time the housing unit consumes more power than made?
Sorry I’ve been away. I’m not sure I exactly understand your question but someone with PV and Net Metering will not be paying for any energy other than what they use at the house above and beyond what the PV created. They would not pay for other events or their neighbors. Does that answer?
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:48 pm to LPTReb
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I know this would be way down the road, once everyone has solar, who is using all of the excess electricity that’s being fed back to the grid? I would assume that net metering would go away at some point?
Good question. The energy your PV creates during the day does get used by your neighbors without PV, so that’s why the utility pays a PV owner for that power. In Hawaii, our Net Metering got reduced by 2/3 because of your question. We hit 20% which is a crazy high number of people with PV so there was too much being fed back to the grid during the day. Now that the rate paid to the PV owner has been cut so much many people are choosing batteries so we’re seeing lots of storage here. Hawaii is leading what the rest of the US will do. So yes, Hawaii will cut Net Metering entirely in about a year or so. You will only be able to live feed the house directly with PV and store it at your battery.
Our rates here are $.30+ per kWh triple what most in the US. are paying so the payback is quick here. California too. It will make more and more sense for the rest of the US as well when the prices come down for storage. Or states that still have NM.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 4:49 pm
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