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NCAA should not pay players; debate me:
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:22 pm
My stance:
There are many roads for a player to take, some better than others. The NCAA is but one road. There is no reason for the NCAA to pay players, who have professional opportunities elsewhere. All opportunities do not need to be the same.
The fact is that players WANT to play in the NCAA. Its benefits are real and measurable. There is no logical reason for the NCAA to play players. That is why this is all pushed under a guise of "fairness."
There are multitude other reasons, ranging from Title IX, to affordability. The fact is, it won't happen. There are many colleges that would abandon sports (or the NCAA altogether) before that happened.
There are many roads for a player to take, some better than others. The NCAA is but one road. There is no reason for the NCAA to pay players, who have professional opportunities elsewhere. All opportunities do not need to be the same.
The fact is that players WANT to play in the NCAA. Its benefits are real and measurable. There is no logical reason for the NCAA to play players. That is why this is all pushed under a guise of "fairness."
There are multitude other reasons, ranging from Title IX, to affordability. The fact is, it won't happen. There are many colleges that would abandon sports (or the NCAA altogether) before that happened.
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:26 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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NCAA should not pay players
Agreed, but they should allow players to get paid.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:27 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
There is no logical reason taxpayers should fund sports that function as the minor leagues for the NBA and the NFL.
Outside of that, funding for these students should be like how any department at a university funds graduate students. The better, richer programs can offer higher stipends.
Outside of that, funding for these students should be like how any department at a university funds graduate students. The better, richer programs can offer higher stipends.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:27 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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This post was edited on 4/10/23 at 4:06 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:28 pm to pvilleguru
Players are free to not join an NCAA school.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:29 pm to pvilleguru
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Agreed, but they should allow players to get paid.
Yep
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:30 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I'm fine with them not paying the players but why cant they get paid for signing autographs or things of that nature?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:30 pm to pvilleguru
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Agreed, but they should allow players to get paid.
This.
Let Todd Gurley sell his autographs during the off-season. Why in the hell should the NCAA give a shite?
But no, schools should not write a check to student athletes.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:30 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Players are free to not join an NCAA school.
Letting a player sign an autograph for $1000 wouldn't hurt the NCAA.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:31 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
When school is free for all students you can pay players.
Scholarships are a form or payment. Room/board/food/tuition/under the counter payments etc.
Scholarships are a form or payment. Room/board/food/tuition/under the counter payments etc.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:34 pm to kengel2
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Scholarships are a form or payment. Room/board/food/tuition/under the counter payments etc.
This doesn't even come close to the revenue power 5 football teams bring in because of the players.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:34 pm to burdman
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Agreed, but they should allow players to get paid.
Fine. Do away with all scholarships and aid. Get what you can on the open market. About 1 percent of NCAA athletes have any market value.
Either be market based or aid based. The schools shouldn’t be stuck as a stop-gap funder.
For all the talk of how much money athletes make schools, nearly all of them are net takers. Their scholarship is worth more than they produce for the school.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:36 pm to burdman
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Agreed, but they should allow players to get paid.
This is the most egregious part. I understand the title ix bullshite and all that it effects. Whatever, don't pay them, I think most would be OK with that if they were able to profit off of their likeness.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:37 pm to pvilleguru
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Letting a player sign an autograph for $1000 wouldn't hurt the NCAA.
Why even go through the charade? That allows boosters to pay fake values for jerseys and autographs.
Gurley can choose not to go to college. People act like there are no choices.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:37 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Either be market based or aid based
What's with this either/or bullshite?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:38 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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For all the talk of how much money athletes make schools, nearly all of them are net takers
Ok, but you are still absolutely fricking the ones that aren't. It's exactly the same thing as saying, you earned a merit scholarship because of your grades so we'll pay your tuition and R&B (which they do), but you aren't allowed to have a part time job at the boutique down the street.
It's a double standard for athletes.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:39 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:What? The 2 are mutually exclusive. Why would you do away with scholarships in this instance?
Fine. Do away with all scholarships and aid. Get what you can on the open market.
quote:Which is the beauty of allowing them to profit off the name/likeness, the free market will rule and everyone will be paid their market value.
About 1 percent of NCAA athletes have any market value.
quote:Again, the 2 are mutually exclusive.
Either be market based or aid based. The schools shouldn’t be stuck as a stop-gap funder.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:40 pm to msutiger
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Congratulations, now the girl who was fulfilling her dream playing college soccer while also getting a scholarship to school will no longer get that opportunity because a power-five, five-star DB wanted new shoes on top of his free education, free housing, free meal plan in a private cafeteria, free athletic gear, free books and weekly nationally televised audition for professional football.
As it should be
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:40 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Ok, but you are still absolutely fricking the ones that aren't. It's exactly the same thing as saying, you earned a merit scholarship because of your grades so we'll pay your tuition and R&B (which they do), but you aren't allowed to have a part time job at the boutique down the street.
It's a double standard for athletes
Yep
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:40 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Why even go through the charade? That allows boosters to pay fake values for jerseys and autographs.
And that is the NCAA's business because? It's no different than a business owner paying their friends son $20 an hour to run the register at his business, which isn't against the rules for any other student.
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Gurley can choose not to go to college. People act like there are no choices.
You know that this is disenginous bb
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 3:40 pm
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