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Drones
Posted on 11/18/18 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 11/18/18 at 9:22 pm
I don't have one currently but I am thinking of getting one mainly for aerial photography. I'm looking at the dji mavic air. Any recommendations for a newbie?
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 9:23 pm
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 9:53 pm to meangene323
Mavic is great
Posted on 11/18/18 at 10:10 pm to djangochained
quote:If you’re planning on doing it to earn extra income, including part-time or “on the side”, don’t forget your FAA Part 107 Remote Pilot Certificate. It’s required. If you're a business owner and you own your drone (real estate agents, construction companies, etc.) and the operation of the drone benefits your business in any way, a Part 107 license is required to operate the drone. Even if you accept in-kind payment (example: football tickets) or fly the drone for free but later charge for editing, it's still required.
I don't have one currently but I am thinking of getting one mainly for aerial photography.
Tons of reviews: LINK
This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 8:37 am
Posted on 11/19/18 at 6:15 am to tigerpawl
Mavic is a great one, very transportable and has a decent camera.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 6:35 am to meangene323
Mavic is SICK!
Posted on 11/19/18 at 8:53 am to djangochained
i want to upgrade my mavic to the 2 pro.....but i dont use it enough to warrant that.
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:18 am to CarRamrod
Lets split it
Posted on 11/19/18 at 9:44 pm to tigerpawl
But if you're not doing it for money...do you still have to license your drone with the FAA?
Also, DJI and other companies have software/firmware installed that keeps drones from flying near airports (Keep out zones). Isn't there a process in case you live near an airport but nowhere in the pattern that you need to get permission to fly your drone (even in your backyard)?
Also, DJI and other companies have software/firmware installed that keeps drones from flying near airports (Keep out zones). Isn't there a process in case you live near an airport but nowhere in the pattern that you need to get permission to fly your drone (even in your backyard)?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 7:29 am to NASA_ISS_Tiger
quote:
But if you're not doing it for money...do you still have to license your drone with the FAA?
No
quote:
Also, DJI and other companies have software/firmware installed that keeps drones from flying near airports (Keep out zones). Isn't there a process in case you live near an airport but nowhere in the pattern that you need to get permission to fly your drone (even in your backyard)?
They don’t keep you from flying in airport zones unless there is a do not fly restriction. You are supposed to contact the airport if it has an active tower to get permission to fly within 5 miles of it. It’s more like where flight is prohibited like national parks that are restricted by software.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 7:31 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 7:43 am to NASA_ISS_Tiger
quote:
But if you're not doing it for money...do you still have to license your drone with the FAA?
"Option #1. Fly in accordance with the Special Rule for Model Aircraft (Public Law 112-95 Section 336). Under this rule, operators must:
Register their UAS with the FAA"
Note the distinction between "register" and "license" (aka: remote pilot certificate). Not unlike the distinction between registering your car and your driver's license.
LINK
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 8:00 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:00 am to tigerpawl
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must: Register their UAS with the FAA
Ok so it does look like you have to register again, but the law stated on the FAA page is actually illegal. That law was tossed back in early/mid 2017, morons at the FAA never updated their page.
Looks like Trump signed the National Defense Authorization Act in December 2017 to bring back registration and the guy that won against the FAA in 2017 is still pursuing tossing Trump's thing, but has lost a few times.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 8:02 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:09 am to Dam Guide
quote:From a 3rd party website: "Back in May a U.S. court of appeals struck down the FAA’s right to require drone hobbyists to register themselves with the FAA in the Taylor vs. FAA court case. Since then, hobbyist registrations have declined dramatically, and the hobbyist registration process has been in a legal limbo. This new law firmly establishes FAA authority for requiring hobbyist drone registrations." LINK
Ok so it does look like you have to register again, but the law stated on the FAA page is actually illegal. That law was tossed back in early/mid 2017, morons at the FAA never updated their page.
Not sure about the reference to never updating their page. It is what it is today. At some point (not sure when) it had to be updated to what it shows today (current). See: LINK
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:12 am to tigerpawl
Section 336 is what was struck down.
Trump's National Defense Authorization Act is what replaced it. That's the new law. The FAA page doesn't reference that, they are still using the original 336 page that was up from when I applied back before 2017. They left that page up even after that law was struck down.
Trump's National Defense Authorization Act is what replaced it. That's the new law. The FAA page doesn't reference that, they are still using the original 336 page that was up from when I applied back before 2017. They left that page up even after that law was struck down.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:15 am to tigerpawl
Thanks. Another thing I found out that was concerning regarding drone flight:
If I'm flying my drone in my backyard (about 10 miles away from any airport or Redstone Arsenal) and a Blackhawk pilot from RSA decides he wants to show off to his kids and flies over my neighborhood at treetop level (a little higher, but still very low) and my drone and his helicopter collide...I'm in the wrong. Just keep that in mind.
If I'm flying my drone in my backyard (about 10 miles away from any airport or Redstone Arsenal) and a Blackhawk pilot from RSA decides he wants to show off to his kids and flies over my neighborhood at treetop level (a little higher, but still very low) and my drone and his helicopter collide...I'm in the wrong. Just keep that in mind.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:32 am to NASA_ISS_Tiger
quote:
Thanks. Another thing I found out that was concerning regarding drone flight: If I'm flying my drone in my backyard (about 10 miles away from any airport or Redstone Arsenal) and a Blackhawk pilot from RSA decides he wants to show off to his kids and flies over my neighborhood at treetop level (a little higher, but still very low) and my drone and his helicopter collide...I'm in the wrong. Just keep that in mind.
FAA is apparently supposed to start putting out more rules per the Defense Authorization Act about flying over crowds and putting beacons on drones to help with things like that.
You can and should get insurance if you have a real concern about that.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:44 am to NASA_ISS_Tiger
quote:see, this annoys me on how the definition of this changes. Drone and UAV are now synonymous when a drone was an autonomous vehicle, not just an unmanned vehicle.
If I'm flying my drone
i know petty
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 8:45 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:45 am to Dam Guide
Insurance covers loss of life/loss of vehicle (Blackhawk)in a military caused by drone? Not to mention loss of life/property depending on where the UH60 crashes? In the one instance I saw (I wasn't flying my drone), the UH60 pilot would have had no margin for auto-rotation or recovery flying over our residential area doing maneuvers (not flying straight and level)
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:03 am to Dam Guide
quote:The FAA website as it stands today is accurate. The new law (H.R. 302, the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018) has been signed into law but has not yet been implemented. Date TBD.
That law was tossed back in early/mid 2017, morons at the FAA never updated their page.
Also, Section 336 will be replaced by Section 349: "Section 349. Exception for limited recreational operations of unmanned aircraft. This section creates a framework for the operation of recreational aircraft including operating requirements, aeronautical knowledge testing, and the qualifications for community-based organizations that support recreational aircraft activities. This section also includes a process for FAA to periodically update operational parameters for recreational aircraft."
Interesting: "Going forward all drone pilots will be required to register their aircraft AND take an aeronautical knowledge test." LINK So everybody will have to take a test. The FAA states it will NOT be the same test administered for Part 107 Remote Pilot Certificates.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 9:12 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:53 am to tigerpawl
quote:
The FAA states it will NOT be the same test administered for Part 107 Remote Pilot Certificates.
well duh, that would be stupid. i do need to take my 107 test though.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 9:54 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:16 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
The FAA website as it stands today is accurate. The new law (H.R. 302, the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018) has been signed into law but has not yet been implemented.
Actually right now its Section 1092 of the NDAA
Section 336 was tossed by the court. So the FAA website is still out of date. NDAA is what is restoring the FAA power to register drones. Without the NDAA, 336 has no teeth. NDAA gives them the power to force registration of drones.
Here ya go, link to the NDAA
LINK
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 12:26 pm
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