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re: LSU sitting on the one-yard line as a 13-point favorite is the gambling crime of the centu

Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:21 pm to
Well besides the gambling angle, it was dumb to do what Brossette did. In that situation, you go for the score and the points. The chances are much better for a fumble and a scoop and score to tie it up than answering the LSU td with a quick td, and then converting an onside kick.

I really don't follow Brossette's logic in that decision other than he was trying to get cute as though LSU had a 3 score lead on them or something.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 10:23 pm
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:24 pm to
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Well besides the gambling angle, it was dumb to do what Brosette did. In that situation, you go for the score and the points. The chances are much better for a fumble and a scoop and score to tie it up than answering the LSU td with a quick td, and then converting an onside kick. I really don't follow Brosette's logic in that decision other than he was trying to get cute as though LSU had a 3 score lead on them or something.


Wrong.

You go down and then take a knee to run out the clock.

The statistics are that they had a higher win % chance if we scored. They get the ball back then. What if they ran back the kickoff and got the onside kick and scored again? Granted it was very unlikely but that was the ONLY chance they had.

You go down, take a knee to run the clock out, game over.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93730 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:26 pm to
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I really don't follow Brosette's logic in that decision other than he was trying to get cute as though LSU had a 3 score lead on them or something.

It's simple. LSU made a first down and Arkansas had no time outs. All LSU had to do was kneel and Arkansas had no shot to win.

If he scores, conceivably Arkansas could have scored, kicked an onside kick, recovers and scored again to tie it up. Yes, it's very unlikely. But possible. Brossette 100% did the correct thing to assure a win. I can only assume the coaches wanted a TD for a wider margin of victory for the polls.
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:30 pm to
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it was dumb to do what Brossette did. In that situation, you go for the score and the points. The chances are much better for a fumble and a scoop and score to tie it up than answering the LSU td with a quick td, and then converting an onside kick.


No, you are wrong. THere is absolutely no way to lose if LSU holds the ball for the rest of the game. But if he had scored and we had given the ball back there was a very slight chance they could have scored quickly and then gotten an onside kick in the remaining time. As much as I wanted to have a larger margin of victory, he did the safest thing.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:27 am to
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it was dumb to do what Brossette did. In that situation, you go for the score and the points. The chances are much better for a fumble and a scoop and score to tie it up than answering the LSU td with a quick td, and then converting an onside kick.



no way

The chances of a fumble scoop and score in victory formation is definitely the lowest probability.

In fact, there was a bigger chance of him fumbling on the very play where he went down short (first time) had he tried to get in the end zone.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 7:30 am
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11924 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:06 am to
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Well besides the gambling angle, it was dumb to do what Brossette did. In that situation, you go for the score and the points.


I have to strongly disagree. You secure the victory. 0 screwed That up by not kneeling the ball twice with a minute left in the game. Arkansas had no time outs.

What if Brossette scores and LSU has to kick off. And then Arkansas makes an fast touchdown and then recovers the onside kick and scores again?

Chances of that are slim but so is fumbling the snap to take a knee.
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