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How come you voters never changed the law against felons voting?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:42 am
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:42 am
Inquiring minds want to know.
I mean, you do think voting is so important, right? Then why haven't you so-called voters done anything against laws that go against felons voting.
I mean, you do think voting is so important, right? Then why haven't you so-called voters done anything against laws that go against felons voting.
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:43 am to Claymation213
Huh? A little text would be helpful
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:45 am to Claymation213
I'm in favor of felons voting, actually. Same with giving them their 2nd amendment rights back.
My personal opinion is that once you've paid your debt and are allowed to go back into society, you should get all your rights back.
If you can't be trusted to be a part of society, why are you free?
My personal opinion is that once you've paid your debt and are allowed to go back into society, you should get all your rights back.
If you can't be trusted to be a part of society, why are you free?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:45 am to Claymation213
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Then why haven't you so-called voters done anything against laws that go against felons voting.
Maybe because they don't want felons voting?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:45 am to Claymation213
Because by committing a felony, they have forfeited many of their rights as a citizen. Once they have completed their sentence, probation and/or parole, therefore paying their debt to society in full, then they have the right to vote again.
Felons in Louisiana can vote once probation and parole is completed. They just have to show their letter of completion to the clerk of court.
Non-violent felons used to be able to get their gun rights back if they stayed crime-free for ten years after completing probation or parole. However, both law changes with state and federal laws have caused so much conflict between the two I don’t have a clear answer on this anymore.
Felons in Louisiana can vote once probation and parole is completed. They just have to show their letter of completion to the clerk of court.
Non-violent felons used to be able to get their gun rights back if they stayed crime-free for ten years after completing probation or parole. However, both law changes with state and federal laws have caused so much conflict between the two I don’t have a clear answer on this anymore.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:46 am to Claymation213
quote:
I mean, you do think voting is so important, right? Then why haven't you so-called voters done anything against laws that go against felons voting.
Sounds NPC'ish
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:47 am to Claymation213
A convicted felon can vote here
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:48 am to Claymation213
These gotcha threads are terrible
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:48 am to Claymation213
quote:bc voters don’t pass legislation??
How come you voters never changed the law against felons voting
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:49 am to Claymation213
What did you do baw?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:49 am to FooManChoo
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I'm in favor of felons voting, actually. Same with giving them their 2nd amendment rights back.
My personal opinion is that once you've paid your debt and are allowed to go back into society, you should get all your rights back.
We have this as an amendment on the ballot this year and I'm in favor of it. The exception on guns rights is if you've committed murder or something horrific like that.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:54 am to Wtodd
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The exception on guns rights is if you've committed murder or something horrific like that.
I think violent felons should lose their gun rights. If you were convicted of embezzlement or something like that I think you should get them back.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:57 am to Claymation213
It's more fun to laugh at you cry about not being able to vote.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:59 am to fallguy_1978
Each state is different on the gun rights part.
I'm NOT for hard and fast rules on getting your rights back. Example.....let's say a guy was convicted of misdemeanor DV when he was 23 and loses his gun rights; should he lose them forever? IMO if has NO other blip on his record before or after, then after 5 years (pick a number) he should get them back. The incident could have been; the guy just fricked up OR it wasn't DV to begin with.
FTR - DV could just be simple assault but done against a SO or family member and simple assault is defined as unwanted touching.
I'm NOT for hard and fast rules on getting your rights back. Example.....let's say a guy was convicted of misdemeanor DV when he was 23 and loses his gun rights; should he lose them forever? IMO if has NO other blip on his record before or after, then after 5 years (pick a number) he should get them back. The incident could have been; the guy just fricked up OR it wasn't DV to begin with.
FTR - DV could just be simple assault but done against a SO or family member and simple assault is defined as unwanted touching.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:07 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:Why? Have they not paid their debt to society once they serve their sentence? If they are a danger to themselves or others, why are they being let out of jail? If they aren't a danger to themselves or others, then why not let them enjoy the same freedoms as every other free adult?
I think violent felons should lose their gun rights.
Also, if they should have their gun rights removed, why not also knife rights, baseball bat rights, hammer rights, and the right to all or nearly all other objects commonly used in murders?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:11 pm to FooManChoo
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Have they not paid their debt to society once they serve their sentence?
If they're habitual then I say they lose them forever. If it's a 1 time deal and let's say 10 yrs has past, then I'm more lenient
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:12 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
My personal opinion is that once you've paid your debt and are allowed to go back into society, you should get all your rights back.
If you can't be trusted to be a part of society, why are you free?
All of this.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:13 pm to FooManChoo
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Why? Have they not paid their debt to society once they serve their sentence? If they are a danger to themselves or others, why are they being let out of jail? If they aren't a danger to themselves or others, then why not let them enjoy the same freedoms as every other free adult?
And all of this.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:13 pm to FooManChoo
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Why? Have they not paid their debt to society once they serve their sentence?
Some have, some haven't. I don't think a murderer who is released after 20 years has paid a proper debt to society
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:41 pm to jchamil
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I don't think a murderer who is released after 20 years has paid a proper debt to society
If the state says 20 yrs is enough then they have
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