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re: Just sat through an interesting "Lunch and Learn" on the welfare system
Posted on 8/23/18 at 1:18 pm to anc
Posted on 8/23/18 at 1:18 pm to anc
many years ago I worked in the Department of Social Services.
couple things I have witnessed first hand -
-fraud is more common than legitimacy
-recipients (called clients) are qualified without much digging into the factual nature of their claims because if the Department didn't utilize the dedicated funds then the amount allocated would decrease the following year
-HUGE entitlement mentality of many of the applicants and recipients
-"God will provide" is the most common answer for "how do you pay your bills?"
- "Have a blessed day" came from some of the worst offenders haahahahah
-the number of women in the system with multiple kids from multiple sperm donors is astounding
-the most common question "they wanna give me more hours at work, how much is that gonna cut my benefits?" and the next week they quit
I only worked in that Department for 3 years, but it was enough to see it up close and personal.
couple things I have witnessed first hand -
-fraud is more common than legitimacy
-recipients (called clients) are qualified without much digging into the factual nature of their claims because if the Department didn't utilize the dedicated funds then the amount allocated would decrease the following year
-HUGE entitlement mentality of many of the applicants and recipients
-"God will provide" is the most common answer for "how do you pay your bills?"
- "Have a blessed day" came from some of the worst offenders haahahahah
-the number of women in the system with multiple kids from multiple sperm donors is astounding
-the most common question "they wanna give me more hours at work, how much is that gonna cut my benefits?" and the next week they quit
I only worked in that Department for 3 years, but it was enough to see it up close and personal.
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Posted on 8/23/18 at 1:22 pm to prplngldtigr
It is almost like there is some force that wants to encourage unfettered breeding of the lower easily manipulated classes.
We could find out more if we could just figure who these folks tend to vote for
We could find out more if we could just figure who these folks tend to vote for
Posted on 8/23/18 at 1:29 pm to prplngldtigr
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many years ago I worked in the Department of Social Services. couple things I have witnessed first hand - -fraud is more common than legitimacy -recipients (called clients) are qualified without much digging into the factual nature of their claims because if the Department didn't utilize the dedicated funds then the amount allocated would decrease the following year -HUGE entitlement mentality of many of the applicants and recipients -"God will provide" is the most common answer for "how do you pay your bills?" - "Have a blessed day" came from some of the worst offenders haahahahah -the number of women in the system with multiple kids from multiple sperm donors is astounding -the most common question "they wanna give me more hours at work, how much is that gonna cut my benefits?" and the next week they quit I only worked in that Department for 3 years, but it was enough to see it up close and personal.
and here's the kicker. they are OK with this.....until they see whitey get nice stuff. or uncle tom leave the farm to improve their quality of life. its like they don't have that choice!!!! its sad but its definitely ingrained into their communities and a way of life, but its my honky arse fault.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 2:01 pm to prplngldtigr
quote:
many years ago I worked in the Department of Social Services.
couple things I have witnessed first hand -
-fraud is more common than legitimacy
-recipients (called clients) are qualified without much digging into the factual nature of their claims because if the Department didn't utilize the dedicated funds then the amount allocated would decrease the following year
-HUGE entitlement mentality of many of the applicants and recipients
-"God will provide" is the most common answer for "how do you pay your bills?"
- "Have a blessed day" came from some of the worst offenders haahahahah
-the number of women in the system with multiple kids from multiple sperm donors is astounding
-the most common question "they wanna give me more hours at work, how much is that gonna cut my benefits?" and the next week they quit
I only worked in that Department for 3 years, but it was enough to see it up close and personal.
My mother worked there for over 30 years (10 years of food stamps, 20 years of child relocation) retired around 02 or 03) so what you're saying is nothing new to me. Along with the growing caseload they had continual layoffs (when they moved into their new, bigger building they were 2 and 3 to an office, by the time she retired 10-ish years later everyone had their own office with some empty, and all that time the case loads did not diminish).
A couple of her stories I remember:
- one client whose primary ambition in life was to move into the hotel with her boyfriend
- another client whom she had discussed birth control pills with, when she asked the client "so what do you do when you meet a man you want to have sex with" the client's response was "tell him to wait a few minutes while I take this pill."
My step-father spent his career in education, retired as a superintendent. Both of them have stated that one of the worst abuses out there is SSI ("crazy checks").
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/23/18 at 2:31 pm to prplngldtigr
quote:
many years ago I worked in the Department of Social Services.
couple things I have witnessed first hand -
-fraud is more common than legitimacy
-recipients (called clients) are qualified without much digging into the factual nature of their claims because if the Department didn't utilize the dedicated funds then the amount allocated would decrease the following year
-HUGE entitlement mentality of many of the applicants and recipients
-"God will provide" is the most common answer for "how do you pay your bills?"
- "Have a blessed day" came from some of the worst offenders haahahahah
-the number of women in the system with multiple kids from multiple sperm donors is astounding
-the most common question "they wanna give me more hours at work, how much is that gonna cut my benefits?" and the next week they quit
I only worked in that Department for 3 years, but it was enough to see it up close and personal.
I don't doubt what you have written one bit. But be honest. How employable are these people really? Any job they could possibly get, and they wouldn't be capable of supporting themselves, let alone a family.
My viewpoint is it is only going to get worse, regarding any possible economic niche they could fill. Going to be a lot more formerly untouched by automation in the same boat too, though odds are most of them find something, even if it is nowhere near as good.
I think the system needs to be designed so that every additional kid is LESS spending money. That to me acknowledges something I believe, that these people are basically unemployable at any wage, yet also removes the perverse incentive to have more children.
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