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re: Per Delly this morning on OTB: Taylor and his family both lied to LSU staff

Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:35 am to
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:35 am to
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However, I still believe in innocent until proven guilty and I'm not exactly in favor of potentially ruining a kid's life before he's even been convicted of a crime.
"innocent until proven guilty" is only inside of a courtroom. In the real world, we make decisions with the data we have and can't wait months or years for a trial to conclude.

If one of our players was accused of robbing a bank and killing 5 people, would you be arguing that he's "innocent until proven guilty" and should be kept on the team until he's "proven guilty" (that assumes he's out on bail, which I know is absurd, but it's just a hypothetical)?
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 8:37 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:08 am to
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"innocent until proven guilty" is only inside of a courtroom. In the real world, we make decisions with the data we have and can't wait months or years for a trial to conclude.


Serious question. Why "can't" LSU wait? If he plays and then is later convicted is that a violation of NCAA rules? Would LSU be subject to NCAA sanctions for doing so?


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If one of our players was accused of robbing a bank and killing 5 people, would you be arguing that he's "innocent until proven guilty" and should be kept on the team until he's "proven guilty" (that assumes he's out on bail, which I know is absurd, but it's just a hypothetical)?


Accused does not equal guilty. What if a player was ACCUSED of violently raping a woman. He's arrested, but it later turns out he didn't do it. The alleged victim lied, or it wasn't him, etc? Would you be in favor of dismissing a kid from college for no crime whatsoever?

For the record, I'm on board with a suspension until the situation can be resolved OR more investigation takes place. I just don't agree with a blanket policy advocated by some that arrest = automatic dismissal from school.

At 20 years old I was in a bar one night standing on the patio. Next thing I know, I am tackled by two bouncers, dragged out of the bar and thrown to a police officer. The officer then slams me against the hood of his car, cuffs me, then throws me in the back seat and says "you stupid frick! You finally got caught doing stupid shite!" I literally had no idea what I had done to warrant being thrown out of the bar, let alone arrested.

It turned out that completely unbeknownst to me, someone ripped a neon light sign off the wall and threw it over the patio fence. When the bouncers saw it and came running to the patio the guy who did it pointed them towards me. After 6 months in the legal system, including watching the surveillance tape from the night, it was realized that I had nothing whatsoever to do with the incident and all pending charges were dropped.

But what if my school had a blanket policy of arrest = dismissal? I would have lost a scholarship and the opportunity to receive a free education for a crime I didn't commit. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't think such a harsh policy is justified.


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