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Yogi Ferrell backs out of deal with Mavs

Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:15 am
Posted by PhillyTiger90
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:15 am
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According to a Friday morning report by Yahoo's Shams Charania, Ferrell has backed out of plans to re-sign with the Mavs, instead opting to re-enter free agency."


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The 6-foot Ferrell, 25, was one of the most effective backcourt players last season, averaging 10.2 points, 3 rebounds and 2.5 assists. He played nearly 28 minutes per game and was the only Maverick to play in all 82 games.


Should we?

Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6046 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:16 am to
He wants more than the $5.3m guaranteed he was going to get from the Mavericks...we don't have that to offer
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
11624 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:20 am to
Yeah but does he really expect to get more than that? If he goes a while without getting signed he’ll be crawling back looking for anything.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36300 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:42 am to
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He wants more than the $5.3m guaranteed he was going to get from the Mavericks...we don't have that to offer

Only half of that was guaranteed.
Posted by Cheesy Beaver
Kenna brah
Member since Dec 2014
4424 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:15 am to
yogi for the minimum would be a steal
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:19 am to
Yogi ain't playing chess, he's playing checkers. His agent must have a better deal lined up, he's not taking less money to play for someone else.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127763 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:24 am to
He obviously got a better deal from someone else, yeah. Could be the same money but fully guaranteed.

It isn't us because we can't offer 5.3million under any scenario except a trade.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36300 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:48 am to
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Yogi ain't playing chess, he's playing checkers. His agent must have a better deal lined up, he's not taking less money to play for someone else.

I'm wondering if it has to do with the statement that was made when Shams reported it. It was weird, I don't I've ever seen a Shams tweet worded like his.

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Sources: Free agent Yogi Ferrell has agreed to a two-year, $5.3M deal to re-sign with the Dallas Mavericks. Ferrell was promised the backup shooting guard position to start next season.


I wonder if the backing out had something to do with the bolded part of that tweet. It obviously came from Yogi's camp.
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:01 am to
Per shams considering us and Cleveland.

I’d think he’d take less money for a possible bigger role and try to make himself more money next year when there is a lot of cap space available.
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:01 am to
But that’s just my guess.
Posted by Cheesy Beaver
Kenna brah
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:05 am to
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New free agent Yogi Ferrell is fielding interest from several teams, including Cleveland and New Orleans, and plans to decide within the next day, league sources tell Yahoo.


You were saying?

Just messing, bud
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38942 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:06 am to
his name is Yogi but he looks like Boo Boo
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36300 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:15 am to
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You were saying?

Which makes me think it's more about a role than the money. If he's playing on a one year "prove it" deal, 500k is a drop in the bucket if you're going to get a larger role.
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:23 am to
I thought Ferrell was a 1?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73904 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:24 am to
Yep sounds like he’s looking for a chance to show out
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6046 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:25 am to
He's a combo guard. Damn good shooter. Short so that could hurt defensively but can create offensively. Would be a solid backup in this offense.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36300 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:25 am to
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I thought Ferrell was a 1?

He's a combo guard.
Posted by Garden of Asik
Slidell
Member since Jun 2017
426 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:25 am to
If he’s worried about money, can we do a potential sign and trade with Dallas using one of our trade exceptions?

Offer him 1 yr 3.8 mil? Seems like kind of a waste for that exception honestly.

Holiday, Payton, Moore, Clark, Yogi, Frank Jackson.

I’m not sure we can offer Yogi much more of a role than he was promised in Dallas. He will likely be competing with FJ for 5th guard minutes so I think the only way he comes to New Orleans is if Pels find a way to pay him more than the minimum, bc he won’t get many mins to showcase himself for his next deal.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127763 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:26 am to
Yeah, we must be promising him far less money but a starting role next to Jrue.

What can Cleveland offer monetarily?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36300 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:29 am to
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I’m not sure we can offer Yogi much more of a role than he was promised in Dallas. He will likely be competing with FJ for 5th guard minutes so I think the only way he comes to New Orleans is if Pels find a way to pay him more than the minimum, bc he won’t get many mins to showcase himself for his next deal.

Per MM, Moore is starting at SF. Yogi would be the third guard behind Jrue and Elfrid.

We could have the weirdest first names for a guard rotation in all of basketball. Jrue, Elfrid, and Yogi
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