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re: UK doctor fired for position on gender

Posted on 7/8/18 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Yes.

A male may choose to be feminine, and a female may choose to be masculine.


Quick question.

When a 90 pound woman sees a 150 pound fat woman staring back at her in the mirror.... Do you consider that OK? Do we label that as something? Does society consider this extremely dangerous?

NOW.....

When that 90 pound woman sees a 150 pound MAN staring back at her in the mirror....... this is OK?? This is BRAVE?? This is socially acceptable?

Another quick question. Are you aware that transgenders commit suicides at a FAR HIGHER PERCENT than any other grouping of huamns? After surgery is over 40% suicide.... Are you ok with this? Do you think this is just a random coincidence?
This post was edited on 7/8/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 1:41 pm to
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So he is a male (sex) that acts like a pussy (gender). He still needs to go to the mens bathroom to take a shite.


Whoever down voted me is a fricking moron.

If you have a fricking dick...you go to the mens room and vice versa.

He pronoun = has a dick
She pronoun = has a pussy

Gender is how you act. You can act like a damn pig...then 'identify' as a damn pig for all I care. Or act like a pussy and be a feminine bitch.

It is fricking SCIENCE! GET OVER IT YOU frickING FREAKS!!!
This post was edited on 7/8/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 1:47 pm to
Well, "He" is the masculine, third person, subjective, personal pronoun. In other languages, nouns have a gender, but not a sex: La fenetre, for example. The window is feminine, without being a female.

Personally, if someone looks masculine and I use a masculine pronoun, and she gets all bent out of shape over it, that's not my problem. I don't really care. If they're not pulling it off successfully enough to fool me, that's on them.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 1:49 pm to
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the relevant question seems to be “WHY divide restroom usage based upon genitalia?

Because I don't want any penises in the bathroom when my daughter has to use it.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 1:57 pm to
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When a 90 pound woman sees a 150 pound fat woman staring back at her in the mirror.... Do you consider that OK?

I don't consider it at all. It's none of my business what she sees when she looks in the mirror. That said, I think the problem comes in when someone looks in the mirror and sees anything but themselves. When I look in the mirror, I don't think about seeing a man or a woman, I just see me. Lately I've been seeing an old me.
quote:

Are you aware that transgenders commit suicides at a FAR HIGHER PERCENT than any other grouping of huamns? After surgery is over 40% suicide.... Are you ok with this? Do you think this is just a random coincidence?

Personally, I don't believe in elective surgery. I think genital mutilation is sad.

Otherwise, it's just none of my business. If I offend someone by using the wrong pronoun and they correct me, I may use the pronoun of their choice.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 1:58 pm to
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it’s become the seminal issue for the Democrat party

Sounds like a them problem to me.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:05 pm to
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quote:

the relevant question seems to be “WHY divide restroom usage based upon genitalia?
Because I don't want any penises in the bathroom when my daughter has to use it.
You describe WHAT you want, not WHY.

Again, WHY are you more comfortable with a vagina whose owner IS sexually-attracted to your daughter than with a penis whose owner has ZERO interest in your daughter? Are penises inherently dangerous in some way, independent of the mind operating them? We do not accept that silly argument for firearms. Why for genitalia?
This post was edited on 7/8/18 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48357 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:09 pm to
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Well, "He" is the masculine, third person, subjective, personal pronoun.


Right, and this where it gets difficult for those on the left, the masculine pronouns are used to describe the male sex. There really is no arguing that. As I pointed out, masculine isn't a state, its a description. So when someone is asking to have masculine pronouns, they, essentially, as asking to be described in the manner of the male sex. This, again, is why the whole "gender and sex are two different things" is anti-intellectual.



quote:

In other languages, nouns have a gender, but not a sex: La fenetre, for example. The window is feminine, without being a female.


True, but that is the product of romance languages. If we start going down the Etymology path, we'll be here forever.

quote:

Personally, if someone looks masculine and I use a masculine pronoun, and she gets all bent out of shape over it, that's not my problem. I don't really care. If they're not pulling it off successfully enough to fool me, that's on them.


If you're a male, I'm calling you a male and identifying you as such with the proper pronouns. Your reaction is your problem.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Poor poor Christians.
Christians, huh?

2 genders

Settled science
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48357 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:13 pm to
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Again, WHY are you more comfortable with a vagina whose owner IS sexually-attracted to your daughter than with a penis whose owner has ZERO interest in your daughter?


First, let's dismiss the idea that same-sex attraction means a higher propensity for pedophilia. To my knowledge, and I could be wrong, no study has every found that.

As a guy, I really don't care if females are in the bathroom but I completely get that it's different for females. There is a distinct difference between men and women physically and women, it seems, feel more vulnerable in a bathroom (which I get.) I have no problem telling some guy that thinks he's a woman that he can wait until my wife and daughter finish. I'm not sacrificing their comfort for his mental abnormality especially when he's asking me to deny reality in the process.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:14 pm to
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“WHY divide restroom usage based upon genitalia?”
Because molestation.

There's your "why"

You put a young girl in a room with a perv, alone, with a real expectation that nobody will bother them. . .

Heck, what could possibly go wrong?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26999 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:15 pm to
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If you have a fricking dick...you go to the mens room and vice versa.

He pronoun = has a dick
She pronoun = has a pussy

Gender is how you act. You can act like a damn pig...then 'identify' as a damn pig for all I care. Or act like a pussy and be a feminine bitch.


Let's once again use a very real world scenario which has happened in the last few years:

Rachel Dolezal identified as black, dressed in black fashion, styled her hair like black women, and was so successful at identifying and pretending to be black that she managed to become the head of the Spokane, WA, chapter of the NCAAP.

Then she was rightly exposed as a fraud.

Was she respected by any groups for her conduct? Was she accommodated?

Was she allowed to remain the head of the NAACP chapter, in spite of her very obvious love and respect for all things African American?

No.

There is absolutely zero difference between wanting to identify as a different race and wanting to identify as a different sex.

Why should anyone wanting to identify as a member of the opposite sex be treated any differently than Rachel Dolezal?
This post was edited on 7/8/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:19 pm to
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If you're a male, I'm calling you a male and identifying you as such with the proper pronouns. Your reaction is your problem.

It may become your problem if she doesn't appreciate you lifting her dress to find her penis.

That's why I don't bother with the sex aspect of the pronouns, it gets too personal.

Growing up in New Orleans, I saw quite a few men who I couldn't casually identify as men. If it looks like a woman to me, I use feminine pronouns, if it looks like a man to me, I use masculine pronouns. I've been wrong before. Big deal, small problem.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73520 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:21 pm to
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I have no problem telling some guy that thinks he's a woman that he can wait until my wife and daughter finish.


And if he tells you to pound sand?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:23 pm to
"I identify as an African-American..."





Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48357 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:23 pm to
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And if he tells you to pound sand?


Good luck to him. I'm not moving.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:25 pm to
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And if he tells you to pound sand?


Easy, kick him in the nuts. If there's no effect, he's free to pass.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26999 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:26 pm to
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I have no problem telling some guy that thinks he's a woman that he can wait until my wife and daughter finish.


What if neither you nor your wife are around?
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48357 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 2:27 pm to
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What if neither you nor your wife are around?


Not an issue right now. Cross that bridge when we get there.
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