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re: Why do people always say "I didn't evolve from a monkey?"
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:37 pm to JabarkusRussell
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:37 pm to JabarkusRussell
All I want to know is who do I blame for my small penis: God or Evolution.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:07 pm to northLAgoomba
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All I want to know is who do I blame for my small penis: God or Evolution.
Your parents.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:50 pm to JabarkusRussell
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Why do people always say "I didn't evolve from a monkey?"
Monkey see, Monkey do
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:56 pm to 1BamaRTR
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We actually don’t know for sure if humans and chimps can actually produce offspring with each other. There’s way too many ethical concerns associated with actually testing it,
The Russians tried it.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:36 am to JabarkusRussell
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Americans are growing up and out, according to a new report on changes in height and weight since 1960.The average height for men increased from just over 5-foot-8 in 1960 to 5-9? in 2002, while the average height for women increased from slightly over 5-3 in 1960 to 5-4 in 2002.
And the added girth:
The average weight for men rose "dramatically," in the CDC's words, from 166.3 pounds in 1960 to 191 pounds in 2002. Women went from 140.2 pounds in 1960 to 164.3 pounds in 2002.
We are still evolving to our environment even faster than ever before.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:56 am to Deege
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Monkey see, Monkey do
Monkey pee all over you
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:08 am to KLSU
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We are still evolving to our environment even faster than ever before.
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The average weight for men rose "dramatically," in the CDC's words, from 166.3 pounds in 1960 to 191 pounds in 2002.
Getting fatter and out of shape is not a symptom of evolution. Survival of the Fittest, not fattest.
Then again, our society has made it pretty easy for the fat and stupid to survive and proliferate.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:08 am to KLSU
That is adaptation not evolution.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:16 am to Bmath
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That is adaptation not evolution.
So how do we know our early ancestors did not "adapt" instead of evolve?
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:17 am to Bmath
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That is adaptation not evolution.
Adaptation to what?
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:41 am to KLSU
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So how do we know our early ancestors did not "adapt" instead of evolve?
Major morphological changes. Genomic differences would also be apparent.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:42 am to Cowboyfan89
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Adaptation to what?
Being fatties
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:38 am to Bmath
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Being fatties
The climate, by all accounts, isn't getting cooler, so getting fatter isn't adapting to anything. Animals put on fat as a means of survival in cooler temperatures. There is very little that our bodies would adapt to now that clothing or other technologies wouldn't address. We don't have to put on fat or body hair to stay warm--we invented clothes. We use fire to do that. We love in insulated shelters with heating to protect us from the cold.
The fattening of America isn't an adaptation to anything.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:45 am to madmaxvol
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What if divine creation and natural selection aren't mutually exclusive. I believe that there can be an adaptation of things already created...but I don't buy the scale presented by evolutionists.
Two things:
"Evolutionists" is not a term used by anyone other than religious folks trying to discredit evolutionary scientists. It's right up there to the disingenuous nature of the suggestion that "evolution is just a theory" which misses what the definition of a scientific theory is entirely. It's hacky and shows both a complete lack of understanding of the subject matter and a desire to remain ignorant about it. In short, it's not a good start to have an honest conversation with someone.
Second, you did not answer my question, but answered a question with a question for the second time. I'll ask it again...do you believe in a special creation event that took place once? This is an important question because depending upon your answer I have a follow up to it.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:55 am to Cowboyfan89
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The climate, by all accounts, isn't getting cooler, so getting fatter isn't adapting to anything. Animals put on fat as a means of survival in cooler temperatures. There is very little that our bodies would adapt to now that clothing or other technologies wouldn't address. We don't have to put on fat or body hair to stay warm--we invented clothes. We use fire to do that. We love in insulated shelters with heating to protect us from the cold.
Humans have gotten larger due to diet, nutrition, medicine, etc.
Obesity, being a separate issue, makes total sense as well in an evolutionary way. Our species evolved to take advantage of high fat high calorie food whenever it was available, because it was often times scarce. That was the way for hundreds of thousands of years. Today, we are still hardwired to eat that way despite the fact that food, for most of humanity, is not just no longer scarce but is found in abundance AND tends to be the most available and cheapest to acquire when it's the highest in fat and calories.
That trait which helped us now hurts us in our current situation.
As far as whether or not humans will evolve to new surroundings as time passes...sure. But that would require changes that would make us better adapted to whatever this new environment is AND that the environment stay that way long enough to allow the adaptation to be worth the change in the first place.
Our life spans and thus generations take a long time, so very noticeable changes in humans takes thousands of years and more. On the other hand, species with far shorter generational spans can be seen to evolve new traits in nearly real time.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 9:07 am to JabarkusRussell
quote:One possible answer is that the ones who say it most could also be the ones who evolved the least (from said hypothetical monkey) and are still messing around with their long monkey
Why do people always say "I didn't evolve from a monkey?"
tails...
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 9:10 am
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:09 am to TheIndulger
Because you evolved from the ones that left the trees and needed to stand upright to see over the grass.
Why are there still wolves if every dog known can be traced back to their bloodlines?
Why are there still wolves if every dog known can be traced back to their bloodlines?
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:47 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Obesity, being a separate issue, makes total sense as well in an evolutionary way. Our species evolved to take advantage of high fat high calorie food whenever it was available, because it was often times scarce. That was the way for hundreds of thousands of years. Today, we are still hardwired to eat that way despite the fact that food, for most of humanity, is not just no longer scarce but is found in abundance AND tends to be the most available and cheapest to acquire when it's the highest in fat and calories.
We still aren't evolving to be fatter. It's simply what you said: an evolutionary trait from our past that is now the cause of us being fat and out of shape. We have not evolved quick enough to account for the much more abundant food supply. No species evolves to be less fit and more susceptible to disease. Species evolve for the exact opposite reasons.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:56 am to Cowboyfan89
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We still aren't evolving to be fatter.
No question. We're not even evolving to be "bigger" than we were several hundred years ago. Humans have gotten larger much more recently due to health and nutritional advancements, not evolution.
We've become obese due to an evolutionary trait that makes us desire what was once scarce but what is now in complete abundance.
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