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re: Seattle surpasses Austin as fastest growing big city

Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:55 am to
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:55 am to
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From what I can find San Antonio has been aggressively annexing surrounding areas so its growth is more on paper rather than new bodies actually moving in.


That’s not entirely true.

There are a shitload of bodies moving in. People are moving there in droves. Why? San Antonio has a toooooooooooooon of call center jobs. Lots of people who aren’t up to par in California and can’t really afford to live there anymore given their job prospects move to San Antonio to take a call center job and a big standard of living increase due the lower cost of living relative to California. San Antonio is America’s Bangalore.

The part about the size of the city limits is accurate though. Get a good online map and zoom in / activate the filter such that both the city limits line and the Bexar county limits lines are on. You’ll see that the city is practically the same size as the county, and it’s a big county by national standards. When you drive in on I-10 you see the Bexar county limit sign and then right away - while still out in the middle of nowhere - the San Antonio city limit sign. San Antonio - the physical city limits - is enormous. Maybe the most acreage in America. It is the opposite of Atlanta in that respect.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 7:57 am
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 8:05 am to
It won’t last long.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 8:13 am to
I could never live in a liberal city. The people would annoy me enough to wanna leave. Lafayette is a perfect place.
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:30 am to
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San Antonio

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There are a shitload of bodies moving in


My son put his house on the market last week in SA as they are moving for a job relocation. The first day they had over a dozen walk-ins for the open house before noon and had 4 offers-all of which were at or above asking price. That market is going bonkers now...
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35577 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 3:40 pm to
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Cooter Davenport

Interesting. Thanks for the info. In either case it makes it difficult to get a grasp of the real numbers moving in. I haven't been able to find anything that breaks down population growth by annexation and newcomers.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 3:46 pm to
I enjoyed the time I spent in Bellingham. Not sure I'd like living in Seattle proper though. I love the weather fwiw. That's almost my ideal climate.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 3:51 pm to
Austin is a medium sized city.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 3:54 pm to
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Austin is a medium sized city.

Not anymore. Hell Austin's city population is bigger than Seattle.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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35577 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 3:57 pm to
Yeah, Seattle is its own thing. I am grateful to them for drawing all the homeless away from the rest of the area. And now they might be sweetening the deal by sending us their jobs.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 3:59 pm to
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Yeah, Seattle is its own thing. I am grateful to them for drawing all the homeless away from the rest of the area. And now they might be sweetening the deal by sending us their jobs.

My gump wife would be like a fish out of water up there though

She agreed that she'd move to Tennessee or NC after my daughter is done with school. I'd prefer a little more terrain and seasons than south LA can offer.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35577 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:07 pm to
Then it sounds like it's going to be Tennessee or North Carolina.

Luckily, my wife is from a cold weather state so she considers Seattle winters to be pretty nice. As far as being a fish out of water, something like 60% of people are transplants, so maybe it wouldn't be quite as bad as you think. I hear southern accents pretty regularly.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:07 pm to
I love the mental gymnastics on this site. Seattle, home to some of the largest and most innovative businesses in the world and a major tech incubator for the last 20+ years is now going to be fricked because it’s “too liberal “? Hahahaha.

Cities should want to be more like Seattle not less.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:08 pm to
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Austin is a medium sized city.


In 1989 it was. Now it has a population of 950,000 in the city limits alone. WITHOUT having really large city limits geographically.


This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 4:19 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35577 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:11 pm to
Just looked it up and it's the 11th largest in the US now. Damn, I didn't know that.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
49116 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:13 pm to
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I hear southern accents pretty regularly.

My wife was born in and lived in Jasper, AL until she was 13. I may have been to a trashier place but if so I can't remember it

She's definitely a Southern girl but she'd be fine in TN or NC. I don't think I could ever convince her to move much further away. I'd be perfectly content in Bozeman, MT.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
49116 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:17 pm to
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Just looked it up and it's the 11th largest in the US now. Damn, I didn't know that.

My sister lives right on the Colorado River near downtown Austin. It's definitely a large city now. She's a pot smoking hippy too so she fits right in.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:17 pm to
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I haven't been able to find anything that breaks down population growth by annexation and newcomers.


It’s honestly hard to say because they’ve more than doubled the size of the San Antonio city limits since 1980.

Here’s an article about it. It’s two years old but gives a good summary of the annexation history along with maps and figures. It’s pretty wild.

If there’s a more aggressive “get bigger via annexation” city in America, I’d be surprised. It’s their open stated policy.

That said, I lived there for 3 years in the Oughts and can say for certain sure that there’s also a huge number of people moving there.

It’s hard to untangle because they’re annexing the kind of neighborhood that transplants move into. So a lot of the gain via annexation is also really gain via people who moved from out of state.

LINK
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Blastoise
Seattle, WA
Member since Feb 2010
1783 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:18 pm to
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I love the mental gymnastics on this site. Seattle, home to some of the largest and most innovative businesses in the world and a major tech incubator for the last 20+ years is now going to be fricked because it’s “too liberal “? Hahahaha.


Seriously. I find it difficult to even grace that line of thought with a response.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35577 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:25 pm to
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Here’s an article about it. It’s two years old but gives a good summary of the annexation history along with maps and figures. It’s pretty wild.

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That's when city leaders unveiled plans to grow in five separate areas, adding a total of about 65 square miles and 120,000 new residents to the property tax rolls. The City Council is expected to consider annexation sometime this summer.


I wonder if this annexation went through? If so it would account for the lion's share of recent population growth.

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If there’s a more aggressive “get bigger via annexation” city in America, I’d be surprised. It’s their open stated policy.


I've read it referred to as the "city without suburbs" model.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:28 pm to
Well, except that really, San Antonio, in terms of character, could also be described as the “suburb without a city.” So it plays both ways in their case. Haha.
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