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Houston won for the 3rd time this season w/ Harden <23% from the field
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:51 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:51 am
LeBron has shot under 23% only 11 times in his career, and his teams are 0-11 in those games.
Last night was Harden's 30th time shooting sub 23% in Houston (8-22) and 66th time overall (28-38).
Harden's more valuable to his team though.
Last night was Harden's 30th time shooting sub 23% in Houston (8-22) and 66th time overall (28-38).
Harden's more valuable to his team though.
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:55 am to slackster
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:56 am to slackster
MVP
Winning a playoff game with the best player in the league sucking. Winning by 20+
They aren't the top team in the league because of Harden. They are the top team in the league because of a terrible, terrible stack of teams tanking and because of Chris Paul.
Winning a playoff game with the best player in the league sucking. Winning by 20+
They aren't the top team in the league because of Harden. They are the top team in the league because of a terrible, terrible stack of teams tanking and because of Chris Paul.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:56 am to slackster
Good thing Chris Paul was there. He's the straw that stirs the drink.
There's a reason James had to sit the back seat with Ariza in their commercial.
There's a reason James had to sit the back seat with Ariza in their commercial.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:59 am to VermilionTiger
quote:
They aren't the top team in the league because of Harden. They are the top team in the league because of a terrible, terrible stack of teams tanking and because of Chris Paul.
It has to be one or the other I guess. Impossible that the combo of all three plus a good supporting cast and coach made them the best in the league
Oh wait this is a thread for posters to argue with Boom my bad
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:03 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
There's a reason James had to sit the back seat with Ariza in their commercial.
Lol
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:09 pm to slackster
The MVP isn't a competition to see which candidate has the shittiest team.
That's an idiotic way to look at it.
That's an idiotic way to look at it.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:12 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Kind of the way it’s always seemed to me.
Good thing Chris Paul was there. He's the straw that stirs the drink.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:16 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:Well when someone does that then you should call it out. It's obvious that his point is about conflating team success with individual success. I think Harden is deserving and will win, but he shouldn't win because his teammates were also great, he should win because he was was greater than anyone else.
The MVP isn't a competition to see which candidate has the shittiest team.
That's an idiotic way to look at it.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:19 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
The MVP isn't a competition to see which candidate has the shittiest team.
It also shouldn't automatically go to the best player on the best team yet it has for years.
That's why it's a joke now.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:20 pm to slackster
Any idea what the comparable records are when they score over 40?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:21 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Well when someone does that then you should call it out. It's obvious that his point is about conflating team success with individual success. I think Harden is deserving and will win, but he shouldn't win because his teammates were also great, he should win because he was was greater than anyone else.
That's not what he said. He said:
quote:He's not talking about value on his own. He's not talking about winning because he was greater than anyone else... he's talking about his value relative to his shitty team.
Harden's more valuable to his team though.
Read better.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:26 pm to MoneyShot
quote:
It also shouldn't automatically go to the best player on the best team yet it has for years.
Not last year.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:26 pm to slackster
quote:
Harden's more valuable to his team thoug
Hey Einstein,
The award is NBA MVP. Not who is most valuable to their team.
Oh and I’d say Houston having hardwn and in turn having Chris Paul, Pj, luc etc etc. makes him pretty freaking important to his team too.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:40 pm to Boomshockalocka
harden boom singling and lebron vs mj should each have their sticky thread
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:43 pm to MoneyShot
Yea, let’s punish harden for being so good that Chris Paul wanted to go play with him.
Nah dude, your team is too good for you to be MVP. never mind they are so good because other players around the league wanna come play with you.
We will give the mvp Instead to the guy who tried to trade away his sidekick and got caught and now is left with sub par supporting cast.
Nah dude, your team is too good for you to be MVP. never mind they are so good because other players around the league wanna come play with you.
We will give the mvp Instead to the guy who tried to trade away his sidekick and got caught and now is left with sub par supporting cast.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:50 pm to Dire Wolf
Thought we were done with MVP. Tbt with reg season being over. Last exit poll look like 90ish% of first place votes for James. I will make this thread into a victory lap for hardwn tho real quick if anyone wants to 
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:52 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
There's a reason James had to sit the back seat with Ariza in their commercial.
Yeah they didn't want those chompers that Harden calls 'teeth' to have a closeup
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:58 pm to cubsfan5150
quote:
Any idea what the comparable records are when they score over 40?
LeBron's teams are 61-19 when he scores 40 or more - .765 Winning %
Harden's teams are 41-13 when he scores 40 or more - .759 Winning %
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:59 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:I was under the impression from his previous posts, that he was countering the narrative of those who think Harden deserves it for his team's success. I think he's a "who was a better player" person. If I'm wrong about him, then he deserves to be called out.
He's not talking about value on his own. He's not talking about winning because he was greater than anyone else... he's talking about his value relative to his shitty team.
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