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These tariffs on China will kill the oil industry.

Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:07 pm
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:07 pm
I know a lot of you work in the oil industry, and you damn well know tariffs are a terrible idea. Not only will we lose one of the biggest importers of our oil as they'll go elsewhere (likely Russia) for their oil, but everything will go up in price due to the backlash we will receive.

I think we can all agree these tariffs are such a bad idea. There are other ways to try and lessen the deficit, this will actually make the deficit even worse.
Posted by Usafgiles
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:08 pm to
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I think we can all agree




Where do you think you are?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:10 pm to
Just like $60bbl/oil was going to kill them right.


All it did was force the industry to adjust and get more efficient. They'll do the same with this.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:11 pm to
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I think we can all agree

Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:13 pm to
I hope you guys enjoy spending 10% extra on everything as well. This only hurts the consumer.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:14 pm to
Tariffs are a bad idea. UNLESS, he uses this for quickly negotiating some more favorable things.


There is no country on earth that WANTS to give a middle finger to a 20 Trillion dollar economy.


Now, am I confident that something smart will come out of this (quickly)? No. But, I am not ruling it out. Dude has done a few things pretty well.

I will wait and judge by results.

This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 5:15 pm
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:15 pm to
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Tariffs on steel and aluminum will have a heavy impact on employment in Texas, where the number of jobs in the energy industry — which relies on foreign steel and aluminum for rigs, pipelines and other equipment— are nearly double the number of aluminum and steel jobs nationwide.

The U.S. can expect to lose between one and 1.5 oil and gas jobs for every single steel or aluminum job saved by the tariffs, said Karr Ingham, an economist who studies the Texas oil industry. Texas has 225,000 jobs in oil and gas exploration, production and services, far more than the 140,000 jobs nationally in steel and aluminum that the tariffs are meant to bolster, Ingham said.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:16 pm to
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I hope you guys enjoy spending 10% extra on everything as well. This only hurts the consumer.

You say this because I laugh at the notion that the entire poliboard can agree on anything?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:17 pm to
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There are other ways to try and lessen the deficit
and lessen amount of intellectual property theft?

What "other ways" do you have in mind?
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:17 pm to
I know you Trump Sheep are trying to figure out how to spin this as another brilliant stroke for the Don, but the reality is this is a moron's move (Tillerson right) by our idiot president. Trade wars are not good for most industries, and yes, the oil industry, agriculture, and consumers will all get hurt. BTW, how did you 401k do today?
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4935 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:17 pm to
You are low energy. Sad!
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:17 pm to
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The U.S. can expect to lose between one and 1.5 oil and gas jobs


Wait, this has to be fake news.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:17 pm to
I dont think you know too much about oil baw.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:18 pm to
This isn't going to do shite to stopping Chinese companies from stealing intellectual property.

How about leaving less stuff in public records (like patents) that can be duplicated?
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:19 pm to
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I think we can all agree
LINK
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135663 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:21 pm to
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Trade wars are not good for most industries
War sucks, in general.
War is not good for any populace.

WWII sucked in particular.
Maybe we should have simply accepted the attack at Pearl Harbor and called it a day?

OTOH, we are nowhere near a "trade war".
Posted by ForeverGator
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:21 pm to
You guys supporting these tariffs are incredibly naive in thinking anything positive will come from it. There's so much more risk on the negative side, it's not even funny. Let's name all of the previous times these tariffs were successful. Lets hear them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297124 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:22 pm to
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All it did was force the industry to adjust and get more efficient.


Now, apply that to the steel industry and Chinese competition....

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:23 pm to
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How about leaving less stuff in public records (like patents) that can be duplicated?
You really have no idea, do you?

Posted by ForeverGator
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:24 pm to
Considering I am an intellectual property attorney, I think I qualify much more than you retards on this subject.
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