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Italy in September

Posted on 3/16/18 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Skyking
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 6:34 pm
I am trying to plan a trip to Italy in Sept.
8 to 10 days , 2 couples, need to do the Vatican but all else is open. Venice? Naples? Pisa? Florence? Looking at Globus, Gate 1, and Perillo. Not sure if these are good choices so I am looking for recommendations
Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
1401 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 6:48 pm to
In that time frame my choice would be to fly into Florence, spend about 4 days there, take the fast train to Rome, 3 days there and then take the train to Sorrento and choose a city on the amalfi coast and do 3 days there.

Skip Venice and Naples.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77981 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Skip Venice


No

quote:

Skip Naples


Yes
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 8:46 pm to
I’ll be there.

September 12-28.

Two nights in Lake Como
Four nights in Alba (Piedmonte region)
Four nights in Greve in Chianti (Tuscany)
Three nights on the Isle of Capri
Two nights in Madrid, Spain on the way home.

Can’t wait.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:51 pm to
Do you need an escorted tour? Definitely not my cup of tea. Italy is pretty easy to navigate.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5749 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 7:52 am to
Get a private tour for the Vatican. I used Dark Rome.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5123 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 8:58 am to

Skip the guided tour and just plan everything yourself, unless you are old and feeble or just completely incompetent at trip planning. If nothing else, you can look up the itineraries of some of the best tour operators and copy them.

I'm planning a similar trip and my strategy is to fly into Venice and fly out of Rome. So two nights Venice, four nights Florence (with day trips to Tuscany) and then three or four nights in Rome (with possible day trip to Pompeii).

I guess a lot would depend on what you are interested in - art, history, food & wine, relaxing, etc.
Posted by Jackalope
Paris. (Austin Native)
Member since Apr 2009
2252 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 9:07 am to
Venice is only worth one day. There's no locals still living there. It's like Disney. You can skip Naples. Go down to Sicily and check out Palermo which has the best street food in Europe. Then there's some
Amazing beaches, and the most beautiful women in the world.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

fly into Venice and fly out of Rome. So two nights Venice, four nights Florence (with day trips to Tuscany) and then three or four nights in Rome


This is very similar to our last trip.

Re: Venice

Completely disagree with the last poster. It was one of our favorite cities. We did some touristy stuff but we also did a lot of exploring and there are tons of locals and interesting things to do, see and eat if you're willing to get off the beaten path.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7797 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 6:46 pm to
Lake Como
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 6:51 pm to
Italy was overrun with communists in the 1940s.

Don’t support a communist country.
Posted by upstate
Member since Nov 2015
710 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 9:11 pm to
I just got back last weekend. Spend a day doing all things Vatican City, and another doing old Rome.
We went to Positano on the amalfi coast and it was the most amazingly place I've ever been. Florence was cool, too.
The high speed train is really easy and drops you off in or near the city center in most places.
I would skip Naples. It is kinda gross, and filled with pickpockets. Just train there, train from there to sorrento, and pick a place on the amalfi coast. You won't regret it
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3739 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 9:29 pm to
Went in September this past year for 2 weeks. Loved it. I wouldn't go back to Venice, and wish I hadn't wasted time there.

Rome, Tuscany hill towns, and Cinque Terre were our favorite. Hiking between the towns in Cinque Terre was my personal favorite day, and the most beautiful hiking I have ever done.
Posted by Funreaux
United States
Member since Jun 2007
7370 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 1:11 am to
I’ve been to both Como & Alba. 2 nights in Como is perfect. Visit Bellagio at sunset.

4 nights is too long in Alba. I love Alba, but it’s tiny. Visit Ceretto’s winery. Hope you’re there during the white truffle festival.


There’s a Michelin restaurant in Alba & it’s worth every penny. Make reservations now.

Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:56 am to
We are in Alba to explore the Piedmonte regions towns and vineyards. We’re all into wine in a big way. It’s a group of twelve. Literally only there for wine and food.

We’re staying in Bellagio.

ETA: We aren't staying in the town of Alba. We're staying at an Agritourismo at a vineyard a few miles from the town. We'll be planning to visit 2-3 vineyards/enotecas a day and eating leisurally lunches and dinners. This group travels together frequently. I expect that we'll all have a fair amount of wine shipped back as we will also spend several days in Tuscany (Gaoile in Chianti) and do the same. We've done this before in the Tuscan countryside and enjoy the relaxed pace and enjoying the history of the small towns of Italy.

I think we'll be ahead of the white truffle festivals and hunts by about a month or so but we should be in both regions around the time of the wine harvests and harvest festivals depending on the summer weather in the regions this year.
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 8:38 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Venice


quote:

get off the beaten path.


Hmmm...
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 9:35 am to
Returning to this thread to encourage you NOT to take a packaged tour unless you have mobility issues (ie, can’t walk long distances, carry your own small suitcase) or other physical limitations, or are/are traveling with extremely anxious travelers. You can see and do so much more on your own, without being locked into itineraries with groups. Do you really want to sit on a bus, gazing out the window at things, getting up every morning at the crack of dawn to have your luggage loaded on the bus, never getting to sleep in, stay out late, or choose your own restaurants?

You mention the Vatican: if religious tourism is your focus, consider staying at a religious guest house/convent/monastery. Monasterystays.com has listings all over Europe, with many, many in Italy & specifically Rome. Also of potential interest is a Scavi tour: the first-century excavations beneath St. Peter’s.....the purported actual tomb of St Peter in the ancient Roman cemetery that once topped the Vatican hill. You must request the tour pretty far in advance, and only ~60 or so people are admitted each day. When you request, give a range of available dates and you will stand a better chance of getting the tour. I’m non-religious, yet it was an amazingly moving experience to descend beneath the basilica into the ancient foundations of the faith. Here’s a link to the office of the Scavi’s website, where you can email your tour request: LINK. You have to send the request yourself; it’s not something you will experience with a package tour company.

With just 8-10 days, I’d focus on Rome & Florence, with perhaps a smaller town or countryside visit between the two. You could easily fill 4-5 days in Rome (either at a leisurely pace or a jam packed one, depending on how much you like art, ancient history, or religious sites). A train to Florence is easy, quick, and not expensive; but Florence offers an abundance of art as well. Some quickly tire of looking-looking-looking, so it can be nice to add a smaller town like Montepulciano or Orvieto between the two; or even a stay at someplace like San Casciano dei Bagni (thermal baths, spas, etc) for a completely different feeling.

When you make the effort to do the planning yourself, it can be YOUR vacation; not a rote shuffle through someone else’s itinerary, insluated from locals and ultimately learning more about your tour compatriots than about Italy or Italians.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16775 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:50 am to
I have been to Europe over a dozen times but I have only done two guided tours. Both were with Globus, both included time in Italy and both were a lot of fun. I much prefer going on my own because I like to spend more time in one place so as not to have to live out of a suitcase for two weeks. And we place great importance on going to top notch gourmet restaurants which you don't get with the tours. The first time I ever went to Europe was in 1996 on the Globus " From Thames to Tiber" tour. That was a great introduction to places we would visit in more detail in later years. I have also taken the Globus "Alpine Countries" tour that included the northern tip of Italy (Lake Region and Dolomites). I am glad we had an expert driver driving through the snow covered Alps. One good thing about the tour is that they take you right in to the museums and attractions without having to stand in line. This was especially helpful at the Vatican. We are going back to Tuscany and Venice this week.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 12:00 pm to
The only tours we take are walking tours in a city and that's generally for museums or something like The Vatican. Other than that we're on our own and that's how we like it.
Posted by Wade Phillips
Member since Dec 2008
609 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 1:55 pm to
I'll be there Sept. 7-18

3 days in Rome
5 days in Sorrento/Capri/ Positano (haven't determined the allocation)
3 days in Ravello
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