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re: George W. Bush says Russia meddled in 2016 US election

Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:57 am to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36360 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:57 am to
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It's just amazing to me that despite the legitimacy of criticism on Bush's handling of Iraq, these Code Pink-level arguments are still in use.

And it's amazing to me that intelligent people like yourself can't find nefarious motives in political establishment figures. Below is a video of Dick Cheney in 1994 opposing the removal of Saddam Hussein from power. He sounds like the very people who opposed the Iraq War during the Bush Administration. What changed between 1994 and 2000? He became chairman and CEO of Halliburton, which I guess just conveniently made $39.5 billion off the Iraq War.

Cheney Opposed Iraq Invasion in 1994
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:02 am to


Sure, because Cheney had nothing to gain financially in 1995.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:04 am to
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"there's pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled"


That's like two sentences in. That is exactly what the headline says. How retarded are you?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35126 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:08 am to
I can't wait to hear whether Bush believes that the Obama DOJ/FBI "meddled" in the Election. Would love to hear His answer.

GW had best lay low in regard to carrying water for the Obama/Hillary bunch re the last Election. Considering what is coming in the near future, that is a losing strategy.
Posted by AmericaOverParties
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Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:17 am to
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James Clapper expressly lied to Congress


U named James Clapper, one individual, but everyone else says Russia meddled. I believe the only person in govt that would tell u the Russians may not have meddled would be Trump. Everyone else agrees that they did. If I thought this many intelligence sources and govt officials (past and present) were lying to me, I would leave the country.

But I dont and will fly my flag b/c I trust MOST of our intelligence services.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64797 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:23 am to
Like children caught in the cookie jar but not even saying sorry I got caught. The opposition party, those not with Trump, carries the flames of ignorance to the masses.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:23 am to
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Considering what is coming in the near future,


Please tell us.
Posted by AmericaOverParties
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:36 am to
Is it sad I cant understand you?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:40 am to
Again we already knew for the last year russia hacked into several states voter rolls. Also bought ads. Also gave the Clintons millions. Also that russia still does russia.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:42 am to
Is this the first ever US election that the Russians actively meddled in?

If they try to meddle (which they will) in 2020, 2024, 2028 and on is it only going to be brought up in the media if Republicans win? You can fricking take it to the bank had hillary won all of this Russian narrative would be swept under the rug.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64797 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:44 am to
What is there to not understand? It is being force fed by media that the reason for the election results is due to Russia. This is false and is being permeated into people by daily bombastic 'news reporters'. Prove it is not false.


I am sure there are those that had 'seen' these ads that changed there minds on voting. I have not heard nor seen any of them. I do not see all things so maybe you can help me out here. The only real reporting was what the 'news' will not discuss again is Election night hacking by the DNC. The DNC refusing to turn over 'hacked' computers and materials.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:47 am to
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64797 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:48 am to
russia hacked into several states voter rolls.


That would be a State offense as in the State of Russia and would bring international charges and should.


Has this been done? To that point, what has been done with the 'hackers'?
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:50 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
28047 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:51 am to
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Anyone who denies England didn't meddle and didn't desire a Clinton victory (as payback for Brexit) is being willfully ignorant or intellectually dishonest.

Fixed
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64797 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:53 am to
British officials sure do demonstrate animosity for Trump.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:55 am to
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Define, 'meddled


672 dollars in FB ads
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27347 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:55 am to
Did we ever find the WMD's in Iraq?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64797 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:56 am to
In Syria.
Posted by AmericaOverParties
Along I-10
Member since Jan 2018
403 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:59 am to
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You can fricking take it to the bank had hillary won all of this Russian narrative would be swept under the rug.


We'll never know but this is doubtful IMO. Another country meddling in our election would be huge news either way. Have you read how much time and effort was put into this? This wasn't a couple guy operation.
Posted by AmericaOverParties
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Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:02 am to
I've got no idea if it changed one person's mind, thats not the point. I'm not saying it cost Hillary the election or won it for Trump. Lets all get together and try our best to solve the issue of another country trying to affect a democratic election and quit pretending it didnt happen. How hard is that to understand?
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