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re: 'The Memo Is Not Accurate': Dem Rep Says Carter Page Warrant Wasn't Based on Dossier

Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by reggielendale
Member since Jan 2006
1103 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:35 pm to
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Adam Smith is not on the House Intelligence Committee

So. Do you really think people on the committee do not talk to people outside of the committee about what information The Democrat told him that was on it? Do you really think that people on the committee do not talk to people outside the committee. Nunes did not even see it.

I want the whole truth not just cherry picked information. I want the truth from both sides.

For those of you who are interested in other information that I have found and Future information please email me at frankanthonyreggiendale@yahoo.com. I certainly cannot post this information here.
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17094 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:40 pm to
Smith's whole interview was spin. He never addressed the memo at all. He just talked around it by saying Page went to Russia in 2013. He had nothing whatsoever to say about the FACT that they used the dossier to spy on Page in 2016. He completely ignored it.

Moreover, he completely forgot to tell us that Page was approached by the FBI in 2014 and told that Russians might try to recruit him. Page was cooperative and talked to the FBI extensively. FBI determined, evidently, that he wasn't a willing participant whatsoever in any kind of espionage.

Finally, if there was a "mountain of evidence" against Page, why is he still walking the streets and going on CNN, Fox, MSNBC? Espionage is a serious crime. Why isn't this "mountain of evidence" being used to prosecute him?

Smith's arguments are desperate and fatuous.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9205 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:46 pm to
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Bigger fish



Lol....ok. That's it!
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:51 pm to
Excuse my ignorance of the details, but didn't they try to get a FISA warrant originally, and it was denied? Then they came back with the dossier and news article and tried again, and it was granted? If that was the case, it seems like the warrant was granted strictly on the dossier. They likely had the "mountain of evidence" against Page before the first attempt.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:55 pm to
These slimy, corrupt Dims will say anything to try and deflect the torpedo that is headed for their ship. They going down

MAGA
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:22 pm to
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"The warrant was not based on the dossier," Smith said, claiming there was a "mountain of evidence" that Page had been having improper connections with Russian intelligence operatives.



So, let's see....

The FISA warrant process has been described as a "rubber stamp" because 99.9% of all warrants are granted.

In May 2016, the FBI presented this "mountain of evidence" to the FISA court and this application was one of the .1% of the applications that were turned down.

Then, sHitlary, the DNC, and Odumbf*ck pay a disgraced and Trump-hating whackjob former British spy millions of dollars to get Russians to come up with a complete piece of f*cking dog-shite "dossier".

THEN, the FBI gets the disgraced/biased (which they were well aware of) former British spy to leak the fraudulent "dossier" to news sources so that it will be published.

THEN, the FBI take that previous "mountain of evidence" and throws in this sHitlary/DNC piece of garbage and goes back to the FISA court.

The FBI then tells the FISA court that the piece of filth "dossier" was verified by pointing to the news article that they planted in a Yahoo! news article as "verification" of the bullshite contained in the fraudulent dossier.

Contrary to all legal procedural standards, the FBI misleads (LIES) to the court by not telling the FISA court that this steaming pile of complete f*cking bullsh!t was produced by the most vile piece of human f*ck filth to ever come down the political pike AND her sycophants in the DNC (the same sycophants that we had already learned had rigged the Democrat nomination).



BUT, NOW, these F*CKING SCUMBAGS have the f*cking gall to say that there was an additional "mountain of evidence" that was turned in with the fraudulent dossier that would have been enough to get a FISA warrant.

And, they do this despite the fact that one of their OWN SCUMBAG politicized FBI agents has sworn under oath that they would not have gotten the FISA warrant without the dossier.


Are these SCUMBAG HACKS so f*cking stupid that they actually believe that the FBI would have DELIBERATELY and FRAUDULENT presented this steaming pile of sh!t dossier if they thought -- even for a second -- that they they had enough evidence to get a FISA warrant without it -- ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE F*CKING FACT THAT THE FISA COURT HAD ALREADY TURNED DOWN THEIR FISA APPLICATION 5 MONTHS EARLIER BASED (ALMOST ASSUREDLY) ON THAT SAME "MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE".


Seriously -- can anyone be THAT F*CKING STUPID as to believe any of this BULLSH!T?
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 4:28 pm
Posted by reggielendale
Member since Jan 2006
1103 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:25 pm to
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The FISA warrant process has been described as a "rubber stamp" because 99.9% of all warrants are granted.

In May 2016, the FBI presented this "mountain of evidence" was given to the FISA court and this application was one of the .1% of the applications that were turned down.

Then, sHitlary, the DNC, and Odumbf*ck pay a disgraced and Trump-hating whackjob former British spy millions of dollars to get Russians to come up with a complete piece of f*cking dog-shite "dossier".

THEN, the FBI gets the disgraced/biased (which they were well aware of) former British spy to leak the fraudulent "dossier" to news sources so that it will be published.

THEN, the FBI take that previous "mountain of evidence" and throws in this sHitlary/DNC piece of garbage and goes back to the FISA court.

The FBI then tells the FISA court that the piece of filth "dossier" was verified by pointing to the news article that they planted in a Yahoo! news article as "verification" of the bullshite contained in the fraudulent dossier.

Contrary to all legal procedural standards, the FBI misleads (LIES) to the court by not telling the FISA court that this steaming pile of complete f*cking bullsh!t was produced by the most vile piece of human f*ck filth to ever come down the political pike AND her sycophants in the DNC (the same sycophants that we had already learned had rigged the Democrat nomination).



BUT, NOW, these F*CKING SCUMBAGS have the f*cking gall to say that there was an additional "mountain of evidence" that was turned in with the fraudulent dossier that would have been enough to get a FISA warrant.

And, they do this despite the fact that one of their OWN SCUMBAG politicized FBI agents has sworn under oath that they would not have gotten the FISA warrant without the dossier.


Are these SCUMBAG HACKS so f*cking stupid that they actually believe that the FBI would have DELIBERATELY and FRAUDULENT presented this steaming pile of sh!t dossier if they thought -- even for a second -- that they they had enough evidence to get a FISA warrant without it -- ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE F*CKING FACT THAT THE FISA COURT HAD ALREADY TURNED DOWN THEIR FISA APPLICATION 5 MONTHS EARLIER BASED (ALMOST ASSUREDLY) ON THAT SAME "MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE".


Seriously -- can anyone be THAT F*CKING STUPID as to believe any of this


:hemad:
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:30 pm to
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cherry picking.


This is the stupidest meme of all time...
Every bit of knowledge you've ever received is cherry-picked...

There is no omniscience, that's a myth, we'll have to live with summaries and abbreviations and act on that.

Think logically...do you have enough info to make a judgement, yes, or No?

If yes, then...

If no, then continue to gather information...there is tons of it out there.


Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

hemad


But :heright:
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99703 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

"That is a known fact."


In Morgan Freeman's voice...

"It wasn't a known fact."
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:33 pm to
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Seriously -- can anyone be THAT F*CKING STUPID as to believe any of this



:hemad:



Holy Sh!t!!! Someone is THAT F*CKING STUPID!
Posted by reggielendale
Member since Jan 2006
1103 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:36 pm to
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This is the stupidest meme of all time...
Every bit of knowledge you've ever received is cherry-picked...

There is no omniscience, that's a myth, we'll have to live with summaries and abbreviations and act on that.

Think logically...do you have enough info to make a judgement, yes, or No?

If yes, then...

If no, then continue to gather information...there is tons of it out there.

IN other words, you don’t have an interest in the whole truth
Posted by reggielendale
Member since Jan 2006
1103 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:38 pm to
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But :heright:

Nope. His tirade was full of opinion and unproven fake news
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9476 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:38 pm to
This should be the end of any arguments that there were tons of evidence to get a FISA warrant.

quote:

Deputy Director McCabe testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information,


Why is that so hard to understand. McCabe has seen all of the evidence.
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 4:40 pm
Posted by reggielendale
Member since Jan 2006
1103 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:40 pm to
Does he hand out or approve FISA’s? And how did they get them before the dossier?
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 4:41 pm
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:41 pm to
Time to put your money where your mouth is and showcase to the nation this "mountain of evidence". I am all game and willing to listen and read it.

Better be some hardcore shite that implicates Page as a direct threat to national security. Just meeting some people in Moscow doesnt mean shite. We have crony politicians meeting terrorists like John McCain and taking pictures.

frick this shite. Show me he has turned and was willing to open up the US to attack or sell secrets to bases, military, etc..

Stop grandstanding.
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 4:42 pm
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:41 pm to
Bret Baier asked Nunes last night about the Democrats position that dossier was not the only evidence and Nunes flat out said that they are liars. He said it on national TV. Now how fricking stupid would you have to be to do that knowing the minority memo will be released? That is why I believe Nunes.
Posted by reggielendale
Member since Jan 2006
1103 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Posted by reo45 online on 2/3/18 at 4:41 pm to reggielendale Tome to put your money where your mouth is and showcase to the nation this "mountain of evidence". I am all game and willing to listen and read it.

Dude people pled guilty
Posted by MAGA
Member since Sep 2016
581 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:46 pm to
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Holy Sh!t!!! Someone is THAT F*CKING STUPID!


I’m with you on all this.

But you know it’s ok to type out shite and frick here, right?
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5325 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 4:46 pm to
Let’s think about this. If there was really a “mountain of evidence”, why even include the pollitically motivated hack job that was the dossier? That seems like a really stupid unnecessary thing to do.

So there are only 3 possible explanations why the Dossier was included.

1.) Either the so called “mountain of evidence” was really weak and they felt they had to add the dirty dossier to get the warrant. 2.) OR the FBI officials are just really stupid and incompetent so they included the dirty dossier unnecessarily. 3.) OR the inclusion of the dossier gave them a reason to spy on Trump, which was the ultimate goal of the whole thing

Take your pick. Either one hurts the FBI’s credibility and makes them look really bad.

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