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Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:12 pm to
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put down the crack pipe


$530k is certainly a nice start. But at a safe withdrawal rate (~4%) that's only $21k annually to live off of. If he triples it by retirement it still only yields $60-65k annually or he risks out living his nest egg. Most Americans are woefully unprepared for retirement so I'd keep aiming for well above average contributions.

Edited to correct math
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13681 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:39 pm to
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$530k is certainly a nice start. But at a safe withdrawal rate (~4%) that's only $9k annually to live off of.


4% of 500k is 20k. Where is your 9k number coming from?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:15 pm to
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$530k is certainly a nice start. But at a safe withdrawal rate (~4%) that's only $9k annually to live off of. If he triples it by retirement it still only yields $27k annually or he risks out living his nest egg. Most Americans are woefully unprepared for retirement so I'd keep asking for well above average contributions.


there is so much wrong here I dont even know where to start
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:33 pm to
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$530k is certainly a nice start. But at a safe withdrawal rate (~4%) that's only $9k annually to live off of. If he triples it by retirement it still only yields $27k annually or he risks out living his nest egg. Most Americans are woefully unprepared for retirement so I'd keep asking for well above average contributions.


I don't know where to begin.

As an "income" vehicle - $530k with a 4% draw is $21,200, gross annually, not $9k (no idea where you got that). And that is a preserve the principal in perpetuity, not to draw down for an actuarial table.

In other words, I retire at 67 with $530k, that's going to be over $30k per year, because they're going to set me to be broke at 85 or whatever my table says.

If he doubles that to $1 million, then his 18 year retirement schedule from 67 to 85 will be more like $60k annually.

(And I don't even fiddle with money for a living, baw.)
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 10:34 pm
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