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About Dave Aranda as a possible coach in waiting
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:04 pm
I'm just as frustrated as the rest of you with the direction of the football team under Orgeron, but I'm not as convinced as some of you that Dave Aranda will be a great choice as head coach just because he's a great defensive coordinator.
He is a great coordinator, not doubt about it. But being a brilliant coordinator does not necessarily mean a guy will be a great head coach. Being a head coach is about more than X's and O's. A head coach must have skills in leadership, personal relationships, organization, and administration. He has to be able to inspire the team and the other coaches. He has to be able to motivate the team and the other coaches. He needs impersonal skills to relate to boosters, and school administrators, all while keeping his eye on the prize, and maintaining the highest level of integrity. He has to be good at relationships so that he can build solid, lasting relationships with the high school coaches who will funnel players into his program. He has to be decisive in order to make in-game decisions, and have thick enough skin to live with criticism when he makes an unpopular decision. Maybe Aranda has all those attributes. I have no clue. But just because he's a great coordinator doesn't necessarily mean he'd be a great head coach. Hot shot coordinators fail as head coaches all the time.
He is a great coordinator, not doubt about it. But being a brilliant coordinator does not necessarily mean a guy will be a great head coach. Being a head coach is about more than X's and O's. A head coach must have skills in leadership, personal relationships, organization, and administration. He has to be able to inspire the team and the other coaches. He has to be able to motivate the team and the other coaches. He needs impersonal skills to relate to boosters, and school administrators, all while keeping his eye on the prize, and maintaining the highest level of integrity. He has to be good at relationships so that he can build solid, lasting relationships with the high school coaches who will funnel players into his program. He has to be decisive in order to make in-game decisions, and have thick enough skin to live with criticism when he makes an unpopular decision. Maybe Aranda has all those attributes. I have no clue. But just because he's a great coordinator doesn't necessarily mean he'd be a great head coach. Hot shot coordinators fail as head coaches all the time.
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:05 pm to L.A.
100% agree
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:06 pm to L.A.
I look at his ability to keep his defensive unit focused and performing despite being paired with an impotent, ineffective offense and ultimately led by an unqualified and meddling head coach. That coupled with how he has successfully navigated the PR nightmare that is the LSU football program under Alleva is sufficient to justify giving him a shot as head coach.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:08 pm to L.A.
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But just because he's a great coordinator doesn't necessarily mean he'd be a great head coach. Hot shot coordinators fail as head coaches all the time.
Right, but who else would you realistically take over him? I mean out of coaches that would actually come here. There are only a few that I know of, and none of them are guarantees either. But all would be better than what we have currently.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:09 pm to L.A.
Yep, I mean just look at Kirby Smart. Or Scott Frost. Bottom line is, if you are a great coordinator you are a good coach and have a shot to be a good head guy also. At some point you have to give a guy a shot otherwise there would be nothing but retreads as head coaches. Jimbo got a shot, Pruitt is getting a shot. Why not someone we consider the best defensive coordinator in college football?
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:10 pm to L.A.
No one really knows head-coaching is such a hit and miss. It’s a lot of luck in the right place at the right time
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:11 pm to L.A.
Doesn’t the hciw tag limit the amount of recruiting the assistant can do?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:14 pm to L.A.
There are no guarantees. And we aren't getting this high profile championship winning coach to come to LSU. So we're stuck with upstart HCs in lower tier P5 programs or top coordinators in P5 conferences. Aranda's a part of the pool.
You pick a good candidate and he either succeeds or he doesn't. Quit thinking that some can't miss coach is just dying to come to LSU. That's not reality.
You pick a good candidate and he either succeeds or he doesn't. Quit thinking that some can't miss coach is just dying to come to LSU. That's not reality.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:15 pm to L.A.
Conversely, I've seen nothing that says he doesn't have those abilities. He certainly is more cerebral than most coordinators, and has shown the ability to recruit, lead, and organize a defense. I'm certainly more confident in him than I am in O, who has shown none of the acumen that Aranda has.
I personally think Aranda has massive potential as a coach. If LSU is committed to going with familiar coaches, Aranda is a better choice (and was a better choice) than O from the get go.
I personally think Aranda has massive potential as a coach. If LSU is committed to going with familiar coaches, Aranda is a better choice (and was a better choice) than O from the get go.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:54 pm to L.A.
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A head coach must have skills in leadership, personal relationships, organization, and administration
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maintaining the highest level of integrity
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He has to be decisive in order to make in-game decisions, and have thick enough skin to live with criticism when he makes an unpopular decision
hmmm, Alleva needed this check list when he hire Orgeron. Instead of:
Is he cheap?
Does he talk the language?
Is he cheap?
Does he have a binder?
Is he cheap?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:58 pm to L.A.
If I were the President/Czar of LSU, I'd replace both Alleva and O today. I'd promote Aranda to HC and have someone on staff act as Acting AD until I was able to hire away A&M's AD.
I'd tell Aranda, "you have my full support. I'm giving you a 5-year, $4.5M/yr contract and I will do everything in my power to give you political cover, regardless of the results, for 3 years. I'm confident you will be able to win at least 6 games a year as a worst-case scenario and given the time, I know you will be a championship-caliber HC. Who do you want on staff? I'd like an elite OC. I know you need to be able to work with someone but let's do a real search and hire a great guy. We can go up to about $2M/yr. How does that sound?"
I'd tell Aranda, "you have my full support. I'm giving you a 5-year, $4.5M/yr contract and I will do everything in my power to give you political cover, regardless of the results, for 3 years. I'm confident you will be able to win at least 6 games a year as a worst-case scenario and given the time, I know you will be a championship-caliber HC. Who do you want on staff? I'd like an elite OC. I know you need to be able to work with someone but let's do a real search and hire a great guy. We can go up to about $2M/yr. How does that sound?"
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:59 pm to L.A.
Dave Aranda would always have a great defense. He seems smart enough to hire a great offensive coordinator and leave them alone. If he wins, the recruiting will take care of itself. I'm sold and nothing can be worse than Coach Coonass.
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